Kartel 98 VS 108

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looking to buy a more stable ski for a trip to big sky in april and moving out west next year. currently on some center mounted 186 blends and theyre just too soft for high speeds. how are theses skis for charging big mountain type lines? i like the 108s but think they might be a hard on stiff moguls and have trouble in the midwest where i ski right now. 98s seem like theyd fit the bill quite well but i wanna have good deep snow performance . thoughts?
 
I have 75ish days on the 98's and 10-15 on the 108's.

The 98 is softer, lighter, and edges harder. It is more enjoyable in the park and moguls than the 108, but it is not quite as stable on big airs. When I'm really feeling sendy, I break out the 108's and feel much more comfortable landing everything.

Both skis are incredible on the groomers, there is such a minor difference in turn radius that you can't tell. I'm still skiing primarily in Wisconsin, but I spent some time in Jackson a couple weeks ago and the 108's were absolutely killer in 15 inches of freshies. They feel great dropping cliffs and they are super lightweight for the size.

I think you should definitely get the 108's if you are heading out west. They are good in everything, the 98's are naturally a little bit quicker, but they will fall behind when you are skiing powder. For reference, I am 6'1" and I ride the 98's in 186CM and the 108's in 191CM.
 
13789441:Sconnie said:
I have 75ish days on the 98's and 10-15 on the 108's.

The 98 is softer, lighter, and edges harder. It is more enjoyable in the park and moguls than the 108, but it is not quite as stable on big airs. When I'm really feeling sendy, I break out the 108's and feel much more comfortable landing everything.

Both skis are incredible on the groomers, there is such a minor difference in turn radius that you can't tell. I'm still skiing primarily in Wisconsin, but I spent some time in Jackson a couple weeks ago and the 108's were absolutely killer in 15 inches of freshies. They feel great dropping cliffs and they are super lightweight for the size.

I think you should definitely get the 108's if you are heading out west. They are good in everything, the 98's are naturally a little bit quicker, but they will fall behind when you are skiing powder. For reference, I am 6'1" and I ride the 98's in 186CM and the 108's in 191CM.

How do the 108s handle on hard pack and moguls?
 
13789441:Sconnie said:
I have 75ish days on the 98's and 10-15 on the 108's.

The 98 is softer, lighter, and edges harder. It is more enjoyable in the park and moguls than the 108, but it is not quite as stable on big airs. When I'm really feeling sendy, I break out the 108's and feel much more comfortable landing everything.

Both skis are incredible on the groomers, there is such a minor difference in turn radius that you can't tell. I'm still skiing primarily in Wisconsin, but I spent some time in Jackson a couple weeks ago and the 108's were absolutely killer in 15 inches of freshies. They feel great dropping cliffs and they are super lightweight for the size.

I think you should definitely get the 108's if you are heading out west. They are good in everything, the 98's are naturally a little bit quicker, but they will fall behind when you are skiing powder. For reference, I am 6'1" and I ride the 98's in 186CM and the 108's in 191CM.

Also which one would you say charges better? Im leaning towards the 108s but I don't wanna get screwed on hard/icy snow
 
13789446:SteezySmith57 said:
How do the 108s handle on hard pack and moguls?

13789453:SteezySmith57 said:
Also which one would you say charges better? Im leaning towards the 108s but I don't wanna get screwed on hard/icy snow

My 108s are so long that they can be tough in the moguls, but I'm sure they would perform great in a shorter size. They are great on hardpack and hold an edge in everything.

The 108's are much more stable at high speeds than most skis, that may also be because I have the longer size. They have just enough flex so you don't get fucked in ice or bumpy areas.
 
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