I wasn't the biggest fan of they carved but were stable on jumps. They definitely don't like to push 45mph at my weight and height(5'11 220lbs) on the longest length which I would recommend on sizing up. The recoil is built like a tank and weighs like tank. Its stable on landings in the park.
Bottom line imo if I find deal on them on the 179 I will use them to thrash and do stupid stuff on like ski grass and rocks.