I agree, we've got to take care of the enviro, I'm just not sure why this argument is in my sale thread. Oh well it's good for bumps. However, I would like to feast on my share of the backcountry, I'm sick of watching bc footage on film and not getting into it, AND, I'm no telemarker. So, when the price on 4 strokes comes down, I'll buy one, shoot, I'd buy an electric sled if it took me up the mountain. Until then, I'm done just watching the pros shred the bc.