I didn't really like them. I thought they felt kinda like dead weight and like there was no life to the ski. They were good switch and carving but they weren't awesome skis. One thing that really annoyed me were the rivets in the tip and tail because i would catch one ski on the other ones rivets when doing butters or sketchy landings. The good thing about them was that they were the right size for me(184 and i'm 6'2), they also weren't that bad in powder. At speed i thought they chattered a lot and flexed too much to be stable. I dont know about everyone else's but on my skis there was about 4 inches of topsheet peeling off of one ski and it started to feel water logged, also they chipped more than anything i've ever ridden. All around ok ski but i didnt like it.