my urban punx are way softer than invaders.. i have compared my urbans to the original models and the 07 invaders in similar lengths and my urban punx are much softer. is this good? great for butters or someone lighter than me (190 lbs) but i broke mine the first day i had them, warrantied them, used the warrantied pair about 2 months and i have another broken ski. oh well, thank you warranties. pm me or check my review if you have any further questions