Joystick-a-schmick
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johnosteez
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i think it is rad
4frntSkier
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moi aussi^
4frntmorrison
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where the hell is their product?
4frntmorrison
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i didnt say what i said where i want some pics
trevorwoulddoit
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The new site is quite possibly the best thing since ever. Good on Anthony.
Think Differently.
Think Differently.
westcoaststyle
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im not a big fan of the new site. its just a blog.
i was right, i did see him at broken social scene
i was right, i did see him at broken social scene
hoodratz47
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its pretty gay... 80 bones for a set of poles thats tard... its this type of shit thats like airblaster that has no real purpose othere then fashon
R.Fahey
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^ Yeah...... but i think Anthony knows that. A lot of poles cost $80. The point is, if you're gonna spend 80 dollars on a pair of poles, why not support a core company, rather that someone corporate. If i was someone who bought 80 dollar poles i'd buy joysticks.... i just never buy poles.
Ice-Is-Scary
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who cares if it's a "core" company or not? If someone wants to charge me 80$ for poles, even if you say it's a good cause, they can fuck themselves. All this nonsence about "core" and "non-core" is just retarded. Just because someone is marketing to your specific niche to get your money, they are somehow your friend now? I would rather see my money go to whichever company is selling the best product at the best price. This is usually acheived by these large conglomerates because they have a much larger share of the market, therefore selling more products at a cheaper price because of the sheer volume of products they sell. Also large companies spend more money on R&D to make better products, because they can afford to.
So are you guys telling me if I start a pole company in my garage marketed directly towards "freeskiers" I can sell you any piece of checkered shit and you will pay me way too much money for it?
So are you guys telling me if I start a pole company in my garage marketed directly towards "freeskiers" I can sell you any piece of checkered shit and you will pay me way too much money for it?
Ice-Is-Scary
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On a side note, all you asswipes that are deciding whats "core" and what isn't, are snobs. You are the assholes of skiing who are turning it into a fashion show, "Woah did you get a load of that kid, HES ON SALOMONS! what a fag" I'm sick and tired of you trendy assholes making this sport some kind of popularity contest, you are truely pissing on the spirit of this sport. I've seen attitudes between freeskiers go downhill bigtime in the past few years. It's people like you who are trying to create a subculture of freesking you like to call "core", stop gaying up our sport.
its supporting a company that cares about skiing and cares about our culture. they want to create something because of that passion that all of us have. these big corporations dont have that. all they care about is money. GREED. its not a popularity/fashion contest. if your niche is salomon or some other big company, then support them. but dont criticize everyone else for wanting to support something that they feel is important.
Ice-Is-Scary
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So your saying this guy started making poles because he LOVED skiing and felt that without checkered poles it would suck? Anyone who starts a company is trying to make money, yes folks you heard it here first. Obviously he has done an excellent job marketing to you, if you feel he is doing it because he cares about skiing so damn much. He saw a "hole in the market" so to speak and he filled it with his "core poles". It's about money and it always will be. If you want his poles so you can raise a "flag" to other "core" riders thats fine too. Support whichever company you choose, I'll just leave it at that.
Ice-Is-Scary
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Yeah I usually pay about 20$ for poles and they work just fine
Stan_Darsh
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yeah i dont spend more thatn 20 they get broken easily and shit anyways and id be pissed to break a pair of pole that cost 80 bones
trevorwoulddoit
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Listen up. I took the time to type this out, so the last thing I want to hear is people bitching about it being too much reading. Harness your ADD for a few minutes and give it a go. Thanks.
What's all this... core this, core that, fuck core, fuck you, new jack bullshit? Stop your fragmented bickering for one fucking second. I want to know who claimed Joystick was so core in the first place. It sure wasn't Anthony. All this "we're so core" song and dance is definitely not something that has been paraded out from the Joystick camp. It's your assumptions talking ok? Next, I want to know why everyone assumes/claims/thinks the poles are so core and freeski specific. A freeski specific pole? Fuck outta here. There are only so many ways you can improve a pole, and a good pole is a good pole, no matter what kind of skiing you're doing. All this Joystick Poles are freeski specific is a truckload of horseshit, it's just another example of all you snotbags assuming something that Anthony has never claimed. Same goes for this alleged business of niche marketing ploys. Saying someone has fallen for a marketing scheme by buying a Joystick pole is completely garbage. What marketing has Anthony engaged in? Word of mouth? A link to his website? The closest he has come to a traditional marketing scheme is the commercial that's now on the site, and in the extras of some of the movies this year. Which coincidentally has sweet fuck all to do with ski poles. It's something that anyone, no matter how "core", can appreciate. Some of you might have thought, "American Beauty, Cool!" While others like myself might have thought, "Hemingway, Cool!" It's something that can appeal to many different of people. When you guys find this "buy my freeski specific core poles because they're so stylishly hot right now and you're gay" marketing scheme, fucking let me know. All this "marketing to a specific niche" crap you come up with is just ludicrous. Stop being so handicapped for one second and think... If you run a business, why would you limit your target market like that? In your self-centered little world, did it ever occur to you that he might want to sell poles to other people too? People just stoked on skiiing? That's what it all cooks down to after all. All this self importance in newschool skiing makes me shakemy head. Wake up and realize we're not nearly as important as we like to think we are. If we want to be relevant, independant, and self supporting we have some hard work ahead, and we need to support each other. More on that in a bit.
You bitch about the price, but are you ignorant, or do you just not care? If you don't give a shit about your poles and what they're made of that's fine. Chalk it up to personal preference. You never spend more than $20 dollars on poles because they always break? Fine. Did it ever occur to you that to an extent it might be a self perpetuating cycle? You buy shitty poles, they break easily, the shittier they are the more you break. Now that's not an entirely sound argument, but it's possibly a part of the problem, and something you could consider. You probably spend as much on food in two days at the mountain, as you claim to spend on poles in an entire year. Here's an idea, stop buying 8 dollar slices of pizza and pack a fucking lunch. Then take the money you save and help all the broke fuckers in this industry out. Saying there is no difference between your rental poles and a Joystick pole is foolish. Stronger and lighter materials in the shaft are just two of the things you could take into consideration. Bitch all you want about the price, but know that a similar quality set of poles from anyone else is going to cost you just as much, if not more.
This isn't even about fictional hyper core kids criticizing people for not supporting Joystick. This is slefish cuntrags criticizing others for supporting Joystick. If there is a unique company like Joystick , that supports skiing and our culture, you can't criticize people for supporting it. I work hard for my money, and if I'm going to spend it I like to support people I believe in, and companies I believe benefit us. When I buy a pair of Joysticks, the money goes to Anthony, who then puts the money back into Joystick, supports the athletes, the videos, the companies, the websties, and our part of skiing as a whole. The money goes back into our sector, and helps us. If I spend the same amount of money on a pair of Leki's, where does the money go? Nordic walking poles? Maybe into race and cross country sponsorship, supporting that section of skiing. The fact of the matter is that NOT ONE company would exist without your dollars. From Salomon, all the way down to Siver, it's your dollars. You put your money into them, and they put it into things they support. If you freeski, why would you pour your hard earned dollars into mogul comps and trendy soccer mom skis? Like the fuckign Metron. Don't even get me started there. Why not keep the money in our industry? Supporting the athletes, shops, videos, and companies that dedicate their existence to freeskiing truely benefits US. We need to support freeskiing, because the more dollars stay in this industry, the more it grows, the more it's able to evolve and operate independantly. Then we have even more power to support and grow each other. This once again raises the issue of self-perpetuating cycles, but in this context, the cycle promotes GROWTH. Then maybe your favorite pro will get payed what he really deserves, then he can afford to eat, travel, film a segment, etc... Then maybe you buy the video, support the filmmaker, buy the skis, supporting them. I can come up with examples all day, the point that I cannot emphasize enough is that YOUR MONEY DOES MATTER. It doesn't just go to Anthony if you buy a pole, or Johnny if you buy a movie, or Mike if you buy some Siver, it disperses itself throughout the industry supporting everyone. Even this website. Those ads on the right are your dollars. Without them you wouldn't be able to sit here and talk shit all day. Everyone benefits. Being selfish is going to get us anywhere. Acting like children, fighting over slices or the proverbial pie, rather than growing the pie hurts us all.
What set this whole discussion off was the topic of his new website. Now like it or not, you have to give Anthony credit for thinking differently. I beleive it's admirable that he cares enough to give a part of himself to this, taking things that inspire him and passing them along, possibly inspiring someone else out there. Would you rather have just another company website? We've seen them all before a million times. News, Team, Product, Contest, blah blah snore next. Anthony started making poles for many more reasons than I would care to assume. I guess nobody skis forever, so one day hopefully it will give him a steady source of income. It's a creative outlet for him, it's an opportunity to create change in an industry that at times badly needs it, it's a way to support his friends, inspire kids out there, and create something new that takes our industry in a positive direction. In conclusion I'm going to use an extremely fitting, yet still hackenyed point.
Joystick supports US, and if someone is going to support me, I feel I should support them, benefiting us all.
D
What's all this... core this, core that, fuck core, fuck you, new jack bullshit? Stop your fragmented bickering for one fucking second. I want to know who claimed Joystick was so core in the first place. It sure wasn't Anthony. All this "we're so core" song and dance is definitely not something that has been paraded out from the Joystick camp. It's your assumptions talking ok? Next, I want to know why everyone assumes/claims/thinks the poles are so core and freeski specific. A freeski specific pole? Fuck outta here. There are only so many ways you can improve a pole, and a good pole is a good pole, no matter what kind of skiing you're doing. All this Joystick Poles are freeski specific is a truckload of horseshit, it's just another example of all you snotbags assuming something that Anthony has never claimed. Same goes for this alleged business of niche marketing ploys. Saying someone has fallen for a marketing scheme by buying a Joystick pole is completely garbage. What marketing has Anthony engaged in? Word of mouth? A link to his website? The closest he has come to a traditional marketing scheme is the commercial that's now on the site, and in the extras of some of the movies this year. Which coincidentally has sweet fuck all to do with ski poles. It's something that anyone, no matter how "core", can appreciate. Some of you might have thought, "American Beauty, Cool!" While others like myself might have thought, "Hemingway, Cool!" It's something that can appeal to many different of people. When you guys find this "buy my freeski specific core poles because they're so stylishly hot right now and you're gay" marketing scheme, fucking let me know. All this "marketing to a specific niche" crap you come up with is just ludicrous. Stop being so handicapped for one second and think... If you run a business, why would you limit your target market like that? In your self-centered little world, did it ever occur to you that he might want to sell poles to other people too? People just stoked on skiiing? That's what it all cooks down to after all. All this self importance in newschool skiing makes me shakemy head. Wake up and realize we're not nearly as important as we like to think we are. If we want to be relevant, independant, and self supporting we have some hard work ahead, and we need to support each other. More on that in a bit.
You bitch about the price, but are you ignorant, or do you just not care? If you don't give a shit about your poles and what they're made of that's fine. Chalk it up to personal preference. You never spend more than $20 dollars on poles because they always break? Fine. Did it ever occur to you that to an extent it might be a self perpetuating cycle? You buy shitty poles, they break easily, the shittier they are the more you break. Now that's not an entirely sound argument, but it's possibly a part of the problem, and something you could consider. You probably spend as much on food in two days at the mountain, as you claim to spend on poles in an entire year. Here's an idea, stop buying 8 dollar slices of pizza and pack a fucking lunch. Then take the money you save and help all the broke fuckers in this industry out. Saying there is no difference between your rental poles and a Joystick pole is foolish. Stronger and lighter materials in the shaft are just two of the things you could take into consideration. Bitch all you want about the price, but know that a similar quality set of poles from anyone else is going to cost you just as much, if not more.
This isn't even about fictional hyper core kids criticizing people for not supporting Joystick. This is slefish cuntrags criticizing others for supporting Joystick. If there is a unique company like Joystick , that supports skiing and our culture, you can't criticize people for supporting it. I work hard for my money, and if I'm going to spend it I like to support people I believe in, and companies I believe benefit us. When I buy a pair of Joysticks, the money goes to Anthony, who then puts the money back into Joystick, supports the athletes, the videos, the companies, the websties, and our part of skiing as a whole. The money goes back into our sector, and helps us. If I spend the same amount of money on a pair of Leki's, where does the money go? Nordic walking poles? Maybe into race and cross country sponsorship, supporting that section of skiing. The fact of the matter is that NOT ONE company would exist without your dollars. From Salomon, all the way down to Siver, it's your dollars. You put your money into them, and they put it into things they support. If you freeski, why would you pour your hard earned dollars into mogul comps and trendy soccer mom skis? Like the fuckign Metron. Don't even get me started there. Why not keep the money in our industry? Supporting the athletes, shops, videos, and companies that dedicate their existence to freeskiing truely benefits US. We need to support freeskiing, because the more dollars stay in this industry, the more it grows, the more it's able to evolve and operate independantly. Then we have even more power to support and grow each other. This once again raises the issue of self-perpetuating cycles, but in this context, the cycle promotes GROWTH. Then maybe your favorite pro will get payed what he really deserves, then he can afford to eat, travel, film a segment, etc... Then maybe you buy the video, support the filmmaker, buy the skis, supporting them. I can come up with examples all day, the point that I cannot emphasize enough is that YOUR MONEY DOES MATTER. It doesn't just go to Anthony if you buy a pole, or Johnny if you buy a movie, or Mike if you buy some Siver, it disperses itself throughout the industry supporting everyone. Even this website. Those ads on the right are your dollars. Without them you wouldn't be able to sit here and talk shit all day. Everyone benefits. Being selfish is going to get us anywhere. Acting like children, fighting over slices or the proverbial pie, rather than growing the pie hurts us all.
What set this whole discussion off was the topic of his new website. Now like it or not, you have to give Anthony credit for thinking differently. I beleive it's admirable that he cares enough to give a part of himself to this, taking things that inspire him and passing them along, possibly inspiring someone else out there. Would you rather have just another company website? We've seen them all before a million times. News, Team, Product, Contest, blah blah snore next. Anthony started making poles for many more reasons than I would care to assume. I guess nobody skis forever, so one day hopefully it will give him a steady source of income. It's a creative outlet for him, it's an opportunity to create change in an industry that at times badly needs it, it's a way to support his friends, inspire kids out there, and create something new that takes our industry in a positive direction. In conclusion I'm going to use an extremely fitting, yet still hackenyed point.
Joystick supports US, and if someone is going to support me, I feel I should support them, benefiting us all.
D
trevorwoulddoit
Active member
It's 4:30 in the morning. Don't crucify me over a couple spelling mistakes.
Intergalactic
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da da da damn. i have to agree 100%. its the same with when someone mentioned airblaster. That company works there ass off to make snowboarding products. So if some kid wants to save up his work money, or even get money from his parents, why the hell are you critizing him?????? Theres no reason. Some people take a liking to somethings, others don't, Just because you think that Airblaster or Joystick is a complete waster of money, doesnt mean other people aslo do. And maybe people like to support the industry, and like what companies stand for. Joystick, for exapmle, is selling you poles, but id buy them for the company.Sure you might think thats retarded, or gay or whatever, but i dont. Same goes for Airblaster. Id buy because what theyre doing is exactly why i love the hell outta skiing. All they want to do is have fun. That is what they stand for. So sure you might be out there for the image or buy from a company because thats what the cool kids are doing, but i just want to buy from companies like that becuase i like them.
freeskiiertjm
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Joystick Rocks!