Kinda ironic statement isn't it? Like I said, no one considers a dub front or dub back a dub flip, because we say dub back or dub front. No shit there are 2 flips in them, but you clearly lack the abilities to understand what me and a bunch of other people in this thread are saying.
And yea I know some people can do true double flats, I never said no one could do it. I just said that Jon's kangaroo is not a double flat, its a double rodeo.