Its no longet GLOBAL WARMING

philipc

philipc

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its global climate change. This is so because the whole earth is NOT warming up. The global conveyer belt is stopping which just means there is going to be no seasons. Some places will get colder too. For example, Maine has 4 very different seasons right now. Eventually it might end up being winter year around with no different seasons.
 
ya geez, thank god that someone grew up conservative, stupid treehuggers, i hate left wing people because they're undereducated, fuck planet earth, we go to mars if this damn planet can't sustain us.
 
wow are you retarded? differences in temperatures IS WHAT DRIVES WEATHER PATTERNS!!! if you are right, which you arent, then there wouldnt be storms or wind. those are all caused by pressure/temperature differences amoung areas. global climate change or warming would mean more active weather patterns due to warmer water= more evaporation. freshwater in the ocean can only slow down the current for a slight bit, which might mean colder temps in europe and NE us for a few years then the water will warm back up.....what im saying is that the current will slow only due to water density but itll start back up again and even warmer with warmer southern waters that built up while the current slowed. the faster current is from the new density changes with water temp.
 
YOU dont know anything. its a proven fact that the global conveyer belt is slowing down. Less warm water coming up from the south, less cold water going down south.
 
and if you understood my post thats the reason why eitehr the conveyor belt wont matter or itll kick in more. 1. no conveyor belt but warming atmosphere= the direct warming of waters. 2. the north cools and south warms...bigger change in temp and density. after the icecaps are fully melted and the freshwater effect is gone then the conveyor belt kicks in alot more than before from the higher amount of difference which will warm the norht at a quick rate and to almost equal temps
 
so does this mean the earth wont rotate anymore either cause that would be sick, i hate nightime.
 
oh and if the north atlantic oscillation was slowing, which it might be as you say, then why has the northeast had warmer than average temps for the past few years? it doesnt make sense. maybe it is slowing, but its not having the cooling effect. or maybe the warm water from the south has more time to set in the north therefore warming the water and after the warm water that comes north cools, it slowly goes south but at a slower rate than southern waters are flowign north.........
 
weather flucuates liek a sinusoidal curve

so the weather goes through periods of above average warmth and below average cold spells over large periods of time, so im not saying its not global warming, but it is true that in large spells of time the earths temperature flucuates above or below the norm
 
i just did soem more research on NAO and basically slower years means higher temps in Eastern America and cooler temps in Europe....
 
it doesnt really matter too much tho for eastern us except right along the coast because our cold air comes from canada...usually northwest canada where it builds up and unlocks itself thus causing winter in the east! yay
 
so with everything u said, does it bring a good outcome to skiers? as in longer winters, more snow. can it also go the opposite direction and cause eternal summer?
 
wat the hell is the global conveyer belt that u are talking about, global warming is very much a reality and some places might get colder but really its just going to all start to mold to the a more gentel climate curve away from the equator, its happening right now, its not somethning in the distant future
 
Bristol, you are right on. Phillip has no clue what he is talking about. Phillip, why don't you actually go to school for a few years and maybe study meterology and then open your mouth again only to retract all your statements here.

If the conveyor belt actually stopped, which it possibly has in the past, there would cease to be seasons. But, we would find ourselves on an earth covered in ice thicker than we ahve ever seen. The entire earth would be covered because there would be so much reflection from the advancing ice caps that eventually all heat would be reflected away from earth.

Your graph makes no sense as well, in terms of your argument. All it asys is taht the average mean temperature across th earth is increasing. And to those who say that the earth goes through natural cycles: it may do that, but these cycles are much much longer, about 100,000 years and we have never seen an interglacial period of this length, or temperatures this high in history. THere has never been as little ice as there is today on earth. This is why scientists are worried. THe cycles of warming aren't 40 years, but, 100,000 years, so we have sped it up way too fast.
 
Firstly, there will never 'cease' to be seasons, our orbit around the sun means there will always be some seasonal variation in temperature.

Global climate change is a more accurate description than global warming, as a result of climate change some areas may get cooler. The earth as a whole is warming though.

I don't have time to get into the complexities of milankovitch cycles right now, but all anyone needs to know is that these cycles exist, but they do not fully account for the warming trend that's been identified over the last century. Combining these cycles with our CO2 emissions does!!

As for thermohaline circulation pertubations, it's not a fact that there is a long term slow down, no-one knows what the exact impacts of climate change will be, the slow down of the NAD is one possibility.
 
The Squeakagorem Theorem:

Yes there is global warming because all parts of the globed are being warmed by the sun. Also the Chlorine atoms (Cl) in the ozone layer react with O2 H2 Fl2 and carbon. This one Chlorine atom can react 100,000 times before its life ends. So every bit of pollution we send up there is multiplied 100,000 times the actual quantity. Also the Ice caps are melting all over the world.

In Antarctica the ice is melting creating ic shelves which then melt in the sea creating a higher see level and a higher PH level.
 
thats pretty much what i am trying to say. what i said in the first place: the whole world is not warming up. in the other threads everybody thinks that it is, and i am just trying to say some parts of the world are cooling down.

forget the graph i posted
 
ahahahahaha i love when people post dumb shit. i dont really feeil like arugueing the same points over and over. lets just leave it that you are a 12 year old child who is greatly uninformed about this topic. (assuming this isnt a joke) which i bet it is.
 
everyone should just slow down the recreation of people for a long ass time and then the population growth would slow down and there would be less people to fuck things up.

it's easy enough.

it all has to do with not enough people knowing what a god damn condom is.
 
i give a shit actually. beleive it or not, there are some things more important then skiing. one being the destruction of the planet which we ski on.
 
come on, more important than skiing? Its important but i think it deserves second to skiing.
 
DONT FUCK WITH BRISTOLRIDER

as i see he has done some research and is quite right on his arguement that the global conveyor belt of weather is not slowing down or will afffect the climates ultimate radical change in temperature, in fact it will do quite the opposite, if anyone wants 12 page thesis paper i wrote on climate change and global warming it talks about this subject in depth and for those who dont know or have done any research regarding this, please stay out of this discussion
 
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