I hera a lot of praise about the p.e. But is it good for all mountain skiing? The sidecut seems about right but the ski is quite flexible. Can anyone who has used them OUTSIDE of the park give me some info. Thanks
how big are ya. if you uner 6 feet then no prob but i would rather ski the arv in pow since its stiffer and comes in a length more suitable for a skier that is 6'2'
absolutely. my dad is actually using mine today because he likes them so much and trust me. hes the last person you'd find in a terrain park or a half pipe (but they kick ass in there too!)
Im trying to work out what to get between the FS and the PE (I want a park ski that I can use occasionally elsewhere), most people I speak to say the PE is more park specific than the PE, but they night just be making a better margin off the FS than the PE.
In tractor pulls, a 'full pull' is the best you can get. Ahh, how sport mirrors life.
i tryed my friends p.e.'s yesterday and they were nice on the groomed even at hight speeds.(this is compared to my mike nicks which i like more then the p.e.)
Yes... you are mad igna'ant, and mad upid as well. PE's are reeeeaallly solid all-mountain. They bust through any type of crud, hold an edge extremely well, and are stiff enough to be really stable at high speeds.... yes. quiet now.
Waterville is right that Mad Trix are probably the best all mountain twin, though. But PEs are supposedly a good all around ski, maybe the best, so if you want park, go for them.
The PE is too soft? No fucking way man! If you want to see a soft ski, try the Troublemakers or any LINE ski, but the one thing PE's AREN'T are soft. You obviously haven't ridden a soft ski... ever. Mad Trix may be the only twin tips that aren't softer then the Public Enemy.
The PE is too soft? No fucking way man! If you want to see a soft ski, try the Troublemakers or any LINE ski, but the one thing PE's AREN'T are soft. You obviously haven't ridden a soft ski... ever. Mad Trix may be the only twin tips that aren't softer than the Public Enemy.
I love my PE's for all mountain. I ski about 50% in the park & 50% in the Alaska backcountry (sik pow) and they tear the mountain up. Hell, I can even tele-ski w/ them w/ my freeride bindings. The damn skis will do anything. They float awesome and carve like mad. Great ski.
If you're a good skiier you can use pretty much any ski all over the mountain, I ride my seth pistols everywhere, even on groomed, and i do fine. I can beat my buddy that is a racer on groomed runs with my pistols.
I have PE's, mounted +3, and can honestly say that their all-mountain performance has suprised me. The only thing I have found that they weren't too happy about was holding a high edge angle with ice. For general all-mountain skiing, the PE's rock, they don't complain about short turns, long turns, high speed, they are just a lot of fun to ski.
mine are at +2 im thinking of switching them to +3 or 4 next...cuz next yr my closest mountain and going park crazy...if they build what they say theyre gonna theyll be competing with whiteface as far as park goes
I don't know if amny of you have not had an opportunity to ski more than a single model or two of differnt skis in your lifetime, but seriously, I am reading some stupid shit.
The PE kills it on groomed, in powder, Wisconsin ice, in bumps, dropping cliffs, in the pipe, riding switch, and I even skied it in Aspen on their downhill course going faster than I ever have in my whole life. They worked. I weigh 185lbs. and stand 6'2'. Some important info when you are deciding who to believe in posts about ski performance. Head and Volkl also do a sick job in creating an excellent do-everything ski, but don't go as far as a $350.00 retail price
^very good point about the price schmies, I don't think anything can really touch it in performance/value. Like I said, they definately impressed me (and yes I have skied many different types/brands of skis in my life).
I have the PE's mounted at 0, and they work really well... I guess you can say they're soft, but that makes short powerful turns down steeps easier, and they do hold an edge well... if you know what you're doing. The PE's are like the orignial Enemy only wider, which means it's basically like a no frills, beefed up pimped out twin tip version of a regular all mounain ski.
It is actually a completely different chasis and tooling process, rendering it a completely different feel in performance. You can't ollie on old Enemies like you can on the PEs. The smilarity lies in the fact they are both stable platforms for skiing a variety of terrain, though obviously the PE takes care of the park rather than being a all-mountain ski with a semi turned up tail as the outdated Enemy was.
hahhaha soft... the PEs are solid. They rock the mountain ALL over. I've taken them through powder, bulletproof ice, groomers, you name it and they have preformed flawlessly. These skis are amazing.
pe's break if you get crazy on them. my friend broke a pair off a 20 foot drop which is shitty because even my piece of shit pocket rockets haven't broken. ask most techs and they'll tell you that k2's are made like shit. but hey, at least they're cheap and have cool graphics. fs's have a partially foam core so who knows how that will hold up long term if u push them or if you weigh a decent amount. whatever ski u get, don't buy salomon bindings
How are K2's made cheap? They break if you get crazy on them? Are you kidding me? Do you watch ski videos at all? We have some kids who ride on K2 skis, and some of them are in these videos and even magazines and stuff! It is so neat! They even....well, they even get crazy on them! Unheard of. Aw yeah...real crazy!! Enough of being retarded. I guess you haven't even ever skied them. Second-hand product speculation comment number 10,987 on NS.
They ski incredible anywhere and hold up great. I used to have a pair of P50 F1's for skiien out of the park and the PE's ski as good if not better than the P50's.