Is On3p worth the hype?

[dolanslebensraum]

Völkl Katana 108 list price at sport-conrad this year was 849,95 €.

On3p Jeffry/Woodsman 108 list price at on3pskis was $749.

Meh. You can find great volkl skis for far less. On3p not so much.

If you are too dumb to understand economy of scale then you may be beyond help. And you are trying to compare huge companies owned by billion dollar conglomerates with a small company started by a Newschooler that builds a tiny fraction of what all these other companies do.

Mehsticles.

 

[aanev]

Meh. You can find great volkl skis for far less. On3p not so much.

But why is that? Why can Voelkl be found easily at half-price and On3p not so much?

 

[Jacobthesadskier]

But why is that? Why can Voelkl be found easily at half-price and On3p not so much?

Because on3p know that their customer base are almost always willing to pay full price, due quite simply to them having the name on3p on the skis. I've never skied on3p's, but from what I've heard they seem to make good skis, it's just that a lot of their customers don't really care about how the skis perform, just that their skis say on3p on the front. The same is probably true for Vishnu and Jetskis. It's all in the marketing. They do make good skis, but the reason why they're so popular is this 'we try to discourage word of mouth' type crap. It makes people want what they think they can't have. And it's also ruining the sport. These companies are actively denying people with smaller budgets by having their prices so high in the first place, and never putting them on sale, which many skiers, (myself included.) rely on to buy new gear, which means that their customer base is compromised mostly of rich spoilt teenagers who look at skiing as something to post on Instagram, not with the passion that many skiers enjoy. Volkl are pretty much an average ski company, without the cult following of on3p. They would never ever be able to get away with the prices of on3p, so they go on sale regularly like every other 'normal' ski company, otherwise they'd barely ever sell a pair of skis. (My sincere apologies for the rant.)

 

[plugs]

Because on3p know that their customer base are almost always willing to pay full price, due quite simply to them having the name on3p on the skis. I've never skied on3p's, but from what I've heard they seem to make good skis, it's just that a lot of their customers don't really care about how the skis perform, just that their skis say on3p on the front. The same is probably true for Vishnu and Jetskis. It's all in the marketing. They do make good skis, but the reason why they're so popular is this 'we try to discourage word of mouth' type crap. It makes people want what they think they can't have. And it's also ruining the sport. These companies are actively denying people with smaller budgets by having their prices so high in the first place, and never putting them on sale, which many skiers, (myself included.) rely on to buy new gear, which means that their customer base is compromised mostly of rich spoilt teenagers who look at skiing as something to post on Instagram, not with the passion that many skiers enjoy. Volkl are pretty much an average ski company, without the cult following of on3p. They would never ever be able to get away with the prices of on3p, so they go on sale regularly like every other 'normal' ski company, otherwise they'd barely ever sell a pair of skis. (My sincere apologies for the rant.)

The skis don’t go on sale because they don’t have a crapload of extra skis due to the limited number of skis they build a year. If the skis sell out why sell them for less money? Believe it or not ON3P wants to put skis on peoples feet but it’s a us based manufacturer that prioritizes quality and durability over making the cheapest skis possible so the prices aren’t gonna be the same as an overseas mass produced budget ski. Also ON3P vishnu and jet skis are definitely not ruining the sport because they have hype skis aimed more at core skiers which makes them popular with better skiers which means worse skiers want them too.

 

[Session]

Because on3p know that their customer base are almost always willing to pay full price, due quite simply to them having the name on3p on the skis. I've never skied on3p's, but from what I've heard they seem to make good skis, it's just that a lot of their customers don't really care about how the skis perform, just that their skis say on3p on the front. The same is probably true for Vishnu and Jetskis. It's all in the marketing. They do make good skis, but the reason why they're so popular is this 'we try to discourage word of mouth' type crap. It makes people want what they think they can't have. And it's also ruining the sport. These companies are actively denying people with smaller budgets by having their prices so high in the first place, and never putting them on sale, which many skiers, (myself included.) rely on to buy new gear, which means that their customer base is compromised mostly of rich spoilt teenagers who look at skiing as something to post on Instagram, not with the passion that many skiers enjoy. Volkl are pretty much an average ski company, without the cult following of on3p. They would never ever be able to get away with the prices of on3p, so they go on sale regularly like every other 'normal' ski company, otherwise they'd barely ever sell a pair of skis. (My sincere apologies for the rant.)

Sale:
https://shop.on3pskis.com/collections/2021-skis

Sale:
https://shop.on3pskis.com/products/factory-finds-customs

Sale:
https://shop.on3pskis.com/products/factory-finds-samples

 

[Jacobthesadskier]

Sale:
https://shop.on3pskis.com/collections/2021-skis

Sale:
https://shop.on3pskis.com/products/factory-finds-customs

Sale:
https://shop.on3pskis.com/products/factory-finds-samples

I admittedly did mispeak about them never going on sale, and I did get a bit off-topic and I do apologise for that. This is probably a divisive topic, and I've just put forth my opinions. I'm not saying they're absolutely right, and there's every chance that on3p are worth the hype, and I could be wrong, all I was saying is that many of these cult ski companies are less accessible for the average skier than many more mainstream companies, which means many skiers might have to settle for lower quality equipment, which makes skiing less accessible in a time when that's something the ski industry really doesn't want to do.

Again, I am sincerely sorry if I have offended, and feel free to critique me if you want, they're just my opinions.