Is my shop screwing me over

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I weigh 120, 5'6, type III skier, and they try to tell me that I cant use look jib bindings because the DIN doesnt go low enough? It goes down to 4, and I dont think Im anywhere under a 5 or a 6. And they tell me I need to buy p10's instead.

Last time I bought skis there, like 3 years ago, they had my DINs set to a fucking 2, I weighed like 90. I really dont trust them anymore

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that my friend is retarded. there is no reason you should be jibbing at a din that low. it is actually more dangerous

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what shop was that? snow country told me they were guna get a second shipment of PEs in for a long time then the last time i went in there they told me there not guna get a second shipment... now i have nothing exept my friggin old Volkl Vs

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this was at ski company. Hes telling me Im a 4, I told him they fucked up last time, and he was looking at me wierd. I just said whatever, do it, Ill just crank them up to a 6 or 7 myself, and he acted like I was crazy.

Then he said I could only choose from a few boots cause the flex was too much for me

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no your shop isnt screwing you over, you should most definatly be usine the p10. although bindings give a din range it is better to keep the din in the middle of the recommended settings. this is because the din is set on a spring and setting the spring too high or too low isnt good. the p10 is plenty for you and should give you a good range of adjustment

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how do u set it yourself? i always wanted to kno how to do that

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i think its the screw thats in the front of the binding or on the top (im talking about the toe peice for both of those screws)

 
the general rule of thumb about binding is that you want to be at least 0.5 up from the bottom of the range and 0.5 down from the top of the range. I have the tyrolia td 8 and its din range is from 3 to 12 and i'm at 10.5. The spring on a binding it meant to last under tension so get the binding you want.

 
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You are small, use a smaller binding. You should be somewhere in the middle of the din range. It is no longer cool to ski at ultra high dins. Get a pair of P10's.

 
If using a DIN chart hasn't changed since I worked in a shop, and the marker DIN chart athttp://www.terrymorse.com/ski/din.html is still good, and the DIN chart for Look bindings is the same(should be. DIN is a STANDARD, duh), then I believe you should be ranging from between 4.75-6, depending on boot sole length. Therefore, you're fine with the p12 jib, as far as I'm concerned.

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they are fucking you over. they tried to tell me that to but i said 'set them to 7 because thats what i ski on and i know what im doing and if i land and they are less than 7 then i will eject and then ill be very pissed offf'

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get race bindings that go up to DIN 17 and ride them on max DIN ... it inproves your skiing ten fold

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ive broken a couple of bindings because the dins were to low and when i released the tow snaped all fucked up and fell offf. if they set them to were i wanted them instead of where they wanted it then it wouldnt of brokke

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that's why i let the shop techs do their thing, and then i double check it. if the din is 3 below what i need it to be, i screw it up (with a screwdriver, not like i throw it out a window.)

but if the din goes up to at least 10, and you don't weigh more than 200 lbs., i'd say they're screwing you. (sorry, didn't catch your weight)

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those look bindings are super solid, not much need to 'crank em up' other bindings out there i would be cranking up, but not the look

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my local shop told me to set my scratch 140 bindings at 13 because 13 is a lucky number.

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but Im not spending more, I got the p12's for 129 wholesale price, Ive already bought the p12's from them and now theyre trying to tell me I cant use them.

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Whatever you do don't let your DIN be too low, you should take this seriously and experiment with it yourself until you get it right. If it's too low whenever you land switch you will always just pop out and eat total shit even though you did everything perfectly. I know because I was doing that constantly, and one time it resulted in torn cartelige in my knee and put me out for the season. Just experiment with it yourself to find the right setting, make sure you don't set it to high because you won't pop out and your leg might break or you might fuck your knees.

Also, it doesnt take someone working at a ski shop to set your DIN. All you do is get a screw driver(flathead or phillips depending on your binding), theres a little knob on the back of your binding, and a little knob on the front of your binding to raise or lower your DIN. The knob on the back controls when you are to be released out of your heels, (like up or down motion making you fall). The knob in the front of your binding controls when you will be released out of your toes which is like sideways or twisting movements that cause you to fall. If it is too low then, try to figure out if your pre-releasing out of your toes or pre-releasing out of your heels, and adjust your bindings accordingly, don't do it too much at once though, just like .5 at a time like if yours is at 5, then go up to 5.5, if its still too low go to six. etc. etc. Make sure though if your raising it you do both skis.

Also if the guys at the shop are telling you to set it a 4, (now i don't know because you weigh 120), but i would think thats still a bit low. I weigh 160 and mine are set at 9 and that's about right, I pop out when I need too, not just by simply landing switch. Set them at what you had your bindings at last year, and raise it up if you have too. People who are riding park and racing have to have their DIN higher than normal because of the kind of stuff we're doing.

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One main reason they want the Din on the binding low is so if you fall and hurt yourself and your binding is cranked higher and it doesn't release then you can point the finger at them for getting hurt. They try to avoid any type of problems like this so they go on the safer side.

 
its not safety here, its money.

Ive had problem before with them not charging me the sale price, or telling me one thing and writing down something else

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tell them that if they want you to use p10's then tell them to buy the bindings for you

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dude,

shop guys are just guys who have a job in a shop, once they leave that shop, there just dudes, so if you saw some guy on the street would you ask him what bindings to use? probly not, get what you want, and adjust it how you want

rock out witcha cock out

-boyd
 
i have the troublemakers with the TM binding din up to 12, and i use a 8.5 aprox on front and back, i weigh 130 and it works great, bottom line though dont have it to low because thats how i tore my ACL and MCL at mt hood two years ago and its not fun, just start at like a 5 and if u fall out to much bring it up and so on until its as accurate as u can ask for

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How is it they're trying to make money of you?

They may be retarted. They may not care about your safety. But they DO care about getting their ass sued by you (especially in the U.S.)

I'm riding rossi 110s right now,(I weigh about 160lbs). I haven't had any problems with the din running at 6 (shop set). If I did I would simply change it myself.

If you do however change your din setting from let's say 4-6 then if you have to send the bindings back for warrenty, set it back to 4; so you won't have any hassles.

 
oh shit if you already bought them and there saying you cant use them thats bs! I would recommend the p10 but the p12 should really be fine. your shop IS just tryin to get some money outta you.

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first of all, shop guys arent just guys who happen to have a job at a shop, we get trained to know what we are talkin about, and goin by the DIN chart, you should be at a 6 max, and thats if you wear like a size 2 boot. you really shouldnt have a problem with the p12's though. also, whoever said thier binding blew apart because the din was too low is full of crap, it wouldt blow apart from the din being to low and you prereleasing, there very well may have been a defect in the binding, but not from the din bein too low

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just fuck it. tell them if they wont mount them, you'll buy it separately or whatever, and take them some other place. your shop is being fucking stupid. i hate having a low din. I blow out of my shitty ass 810s all the time. so frustrating

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I think your retarded yourself considering believing that you can't use the p12's... just set the din at whatever you need, theres no way there not the right binding.. if you are doing some tricks and clip out easy, then go higher, if you aren't clipping out and break your leg... go to a lower din setting. fuck its so simple.

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im the same size and weight as you and i set my din to 11 setting it to under 5 you would turn and loase your ski they are retarded

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It's really about liability, any shop is going to go by the standards set by the binding manufacturer to cover their own ass in case of a problem. If you want to go and crank it up then go ahead, although I assure you with a Look turntable binding there is no need. The highest amount of points of contact plus the highest elastic travel make these binding more solid then anything out there. I ride my Rossi scratch binding at the factory recomended 3+ setting and have never had an issue with pre release... It's really comes down to who is liable for you when you crash and they don't release and you are all frigged up as well as if you come out prematurely and frig yourself up...

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i wiegh about the same as you and ski hard also i use a 6 din on solomon bindings i found that what the shop had set them on was to light and i would pop out on switch stuff so i just went one din higher. Tell start at 5 and do some small jumps trying switch things and see if there sorking ok if your popping out alot for no reson turn them up with a screw driver.

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see what i am saying justto8484 thinks he knows what you need because he has a job in a shop! wahoo mother fucker you probly dont know shit. so go fuck your self

rock out witcha cock out

-boyd
 
^ Guess it's a pretty fuckin big coincidence he's right then huh? Most shop guys know what they're doing, they don't always set it as high as it should be if you just give them your weight. I just tell them where I want it and they go 'Are you sure?' and I say 'Yep.' all nice and simple.

 
the guy at my shop told me i was an idiot. i bought the scratch140s, hes like thats a lil too much binding, i was like, well when i ride at like 10DIN, the 100s arent so great, because i dont want to lock them up by maxin them out. then this other dudes like, im 240 lbs, type III skier, i never go above 9...i was like im a type 12 skier, basically being a dick. and hes like you are an idiot. i was like suck my dick, then he went on to tell me that there would be powder opening day, when there hasnt been for like 10+ years. i told him to fist himself, i grabbed my skis, and went to a differant shop.

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Ha, funny tell the shop to put the bindings on and set them to the lowest they go than adjust according to your own wants and needs.

I weigh 150 or 155 and my din is at 11. I pop out sometimes on the stupidest stuff. Barely backseat sometimes stays and I land or other times I just walk out. This may also be because Markers suck.

 
jesus crhist parkboy go home you fuckin wierd ass typing this fuckin half page long rant about fuckin din settings are you tryin to act like you know everything

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scratchs 140's r a heavy ass binding

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i ride the 3 season old p8's(eqivilant to a p12) and i ride on an 8 and im 5'6' 145. i work at a shop doing shop work, and we dont get all technical with all that junk i usually just set it around 5 and tell them how to adjust it. as long as you dont come out in the bumps your fine.

 
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tell that guy to take his panties off and mount the binding or you'll go to some other shop that doesn't hire gays.

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wow, your all dumbasses. It seems to me like half of you think that din is some egotistic thing where the higher the din of your binding the better you are. the truth is that you really dont need much more then a 13 din bindings for anything out there if your a smooth rider. Take seth morrison for example. He skis hard, droping 80+foot cliffs and such. Yet he starts ever ski season with his suggested din of a 9, then works up from there to a 13. He needs no more. Yet for some reason he can stick those 80 footers with out his skis coming off.

Now Parkrat, you are a complete friggen retard. By telling everyone on this site how to ajust there own bindings, you put yourself at risk to be sued. Some little 14 year old kid who thinks hes the shit is gonna crank his p12's up to 12, then go skiing and break his leg. the ski patroll will take note that hes bindings were set way to high above his reccomended setting. Then his crazy ass parents are gonna get the information out of him that he learnd from you (parkrat) how to crank up his bindings, and boom, your ass is sued.

they made up these din charts for a reason, ski at your reccomended setting and learn to be smooth. remember, casing jumps, overshooting, getting hung up on rails, or landing hard switch are perfectly good times for bindings to come off. Trust me, I have seen MANY MANY MANY more injurys from people who have there bindings cranked to hight, then from prople with there bindings to low.

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just crank your din as high as u can go. its really the best idea

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