JimmyRecard
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I know Candide is an all time legend, but both guys are really really damn good at pretty much every aspect of skiing. Though I know Sammy hasn't really moved into the big mountain scene yet
Is it fair to compare Sammy C to Candide?
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Sammy has won one x games discipline, candide all 3 (main ones) plus fwt, yet candide is probably still better known for chads and his film parts. I'm sorry but Sammy doesn't compare on any level with candide and on some such as legitimate free riding he's not even close
Yes Sammy has done a switch triple but most euro teenagers have as well by now. Candide changed the sport, Sammy hasn't
I still fucking love Sammy though!
Yes Sammy has done a switch triple but most euro teenagers have as well by now. Candide changed the sport, Sammy hasn't
I still fucking love Sammy though!
Heddious
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it would be cool to see what a guy like sammy could come up with on the FWT, i hope he gives it a try someday.
but until then, candide is the undisputed king.
one thought though, wasn't it "easier" to compete in all x games events back when candide won. not to diminish his achievements but the level of progression in park has gotten insane over the last few years and pretty much no one (except for gus maybe) does both pipe and slope in x games anymore. back when candide won it was more common to do more than one event.
but until then, candide is the undisputed king.
one thought though, wasn't it "easier" to compete in all x games events back when candide won. not to diminish his achievements but the level of progression in park has gotten insane over the last few years and pretty much no one (except for gus maybe) does both pipe and slope in x games anymore. back when candide won it was more common to do more than one event.
ndye
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13132860:Heddious said:
So does Jossi. Dumont and Hall did a bit back, I can see Torin doing both a lot in the future. Maybe it was a bit easier, but not much for sure. Thats part of what makes what Candide, Dumont, Jossi, Kenworthy and Hall did so impressive. Not exactly a weak list right there.
Tanner is closer to Candide than Sammy, and I think he might just be able to pull himself into a position similar, although their personalities are so so different.
maximiliaan
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when it comes to skiing, yes.
when it comes to image, no.
when it comes to image, no.
TurquoiseGrizzly
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Sammy Carlson IS the next Candide. Both are phenomenal skiers. Sammy definitely deserved to win REAL SKI too so I'm stoked for him and stoked to see his progression.
hoodcrew
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13132578:Noddard said:
who do you consider to be a legend in skiing? Candide, Tanner, Pollard, ect. I cant really think of more than 3 or 4 guys who are more "legendary" than sammy... and he is just really entering the prime of his ski career, could easily become the T-rice of skiing. At least from what I have seen, quite a bit of the real ski was B-roll believe it or not.... at least there is even more impressive footy that he got last year
K-Dot.
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13132962:hoodcrew said:
This.
Sammy to me is already legendary and the best part is he's only getting better. He definitely has better footage that he's waiting to release because he's making a two year film with tgr if I'm not mistaken. And that only showcased his bc side, his park segments are always very entertaining. That's what really separates him from a lot of other skiers, at least to me. Candide may have big mountain on lock but Sammy's style in the park is very noteworthy. This edit is a pretty good example:
snomaster
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13132853:auski said:
Not quite accurate. Sammy has now won two xgames REALski gold medals along with slope. And when you see his 2 year movie he's producing with TGR next year your jaw will drop again. I love them both. But you must recognize that Sammy definitely IS on the level of Candide (and Tanner). Really, those three dudes are on the most elite level there is. Others are reaching, but no one has as many awards AND banger segments on natural terrain. (the P group of Permin, Pep, Pollard, & Petit being just below, and many others behind them).
And I'll go ahead and claim that Sammy is changing the sport by pushing tricks into the backcountry hearder than anyone else. And his switch triple is still one of the best ever triples in the game. He's always ahead of his time. And if you don't realize it, then you aren't paying attention.
Karma_Police
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13132962:hoodcrew said:
The three you mentioned changed skiing. Sammy hasn't. What has he done to progress the sport? I'm talking about ski design, attitude, all around ability, etc... etc.....
I'd argue Sage is more of a legend than Sammy. Also probably put Jon above Sammy with regards to legendary aspect too.
As far as talent goes he's undoubtedly a top 5 all around skier in the scene right now, BUT that doesn't equate to being a legend though.
galardogod
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Sammy Carlson will always be one of if not my favorite skiers. His attitude, style ,and his well rounded ability. I definitely would put Sammy and Candid on the same scale. Just on the fact that Sammy started the triple movement.
kim_jong_ill
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13132878:ndye said:
Candide is a god, but so is Tanner. If anyone disagrees, they're wrong.
hoodcrew
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13133125:Karma_Police said:
Lot of the segments he has put out I would say have "progressed" or changed the sport. the grand bizarre- one of the most well rounded seggys of all time, the fact that the dude went out, murdered handrails for one last season while tossing some insane BC jibs is impressive in his own right but the ender of the segment and movie is really all that needs to be shown...the cork 7 into pow off a 60 foot cliff, natural takeoff is one of the nastiest tricks ever. He is the best when it comes to taking park tricks and swag to the big mountains, and that seems to be the pinnacle of skiing, what most everyone works towards. Maybe he isnt focused on ski design but Sammy will prolly be putting out shit for like 15 more years so I wouldnt be surprised if he designs some crazy sticks, and as far as I know candide and Tanner didnt change up ski design all that much
Tremblantskier
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ESB
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Sammy changed skiing for sure, he was the first one to bring style and tech tricks to rails. He's still got more rail game in his little finger than Candide's got in his whole body, though you might have to watch older movies to see Sammy hitting rails.
Sammy's also got a larger trick repertoire than Candide, although Candide probably has more all-round skills.
Like someone said above, it's apples and oranges; but there's no doubt that Sammy is a legend already.
Sammy's also got a larger trick repertoire than Candide, although Candide probably has more all-round skills.
Like someone said above, it's apples and oranges; but there's no doubt that Sammy is a legend already.
Karl_Hungus
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Candide: legend boss frenchman, probably only dude (maybe tanner hall?) to win gold in all 3 (big air, pipe, slope.) invented crazy shit, has his own invitational, multiple film projects, and is putting out cool backcountry stuff.
Sammy: Is a mount hood local boss rastamon, has won slope and realski, did a switch trip rodeo way before anybody, invents crazy polejam tricks, has his own invitational, multiple film projects, and is putting out cool backcountry stuff.
I would say they are both huge bosses and legends for sure and they still kill it and ski everyday
Sammy: Is a mount hood local boss rastamon, has won slope and realski, did a switch trip rodeo way before anybody, invents crazy polejam tricks, has his own invitational, multiple film projects, and is putting out cool backcountry stuff.
I would say they are both huge bosses and legends for sure and they still kill it and ski everyday
caderobinson
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I'd say it's safe to put Sammy up there in the legends category. He's been killing it forever, and will forever
JimmyRecard
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I like the T Rice of skiing comparison. The real ski edit blows almost any other BC stuff out of the water, and to think that that's merely a B roll is absurd. The 2 year project is going to change things for sure. Just like Candide's
SpookyCat
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People who believe Sammy is on the same level as Candide are ignorant and probably started skiing well after Candide disappeared from the scene after his broken back.
Just take this all into consideration.
Sammy had an invitational event, one jump and a big wallride... fantastic.
Candide also had an invitational event for many years with the biggest stepdown and stepup jumps that had ever been built for a comp. till that point and I'm pretty sure still to this day that remains true. On top of many unique and insane features that haven't been seen since and a railjam on top of it all where both put together resulted in many next level tricks.
Sammy won X-Games slope and a video contest which consisted mostly of BC jumps.
Candide won X-Games slope and pipe and him along with C.R. revolutionized pipe skiing and finally gave accreditation to skiers in the pipe by out-airing snowboarders by 10-15 ft. Candide also won a stop of the FWT.
Sammy is good at BC jumps and appears to be his major focus right now and has brought many new tricks that were only done in the park to the BC.
Candide was the first to clear the most legendary and one of the most dangerous BC jumps in skiing history. On that same jump he threw down a trick that was years ahead of the time in terms of BC jumping... at the age of what? 14-15? Even after recuperating from an injury that would end most peoples' careers, Candide still hits jumps that are comparable and some much larger and much more high consequence than Sammy's.
That's just 3 of many comparisons and reasons why comparing Sammy to Candide is idiotic. Sammy might be one of the best skiers in the game right now but there's a major difference between playing the game really well and changing the game altogether.
Just take this all into consideration.
Sammy had an invitational event, one jump and a big wallride... fantastic.
Candide also had an invitational event for many years with the biggest stepdown and stepup jumps that had ever been built for a comp. till that point and I'm pretty sure still to this day that remains true. On top of many unique and insane features that haven't been seen since and a railjam on top of it all where both put together resulted in many next level tricks.
Sammy won X-Games slope and a video contest which consisted mostly of BC jumps.
Candide won X-Games slope and pipe and him along with C.R. revolutionized pipe skiing and finally gave accreditation to skiers in the pipe by out-airing snowboarders by 10-15 ft. Candide also won a stop of the FWT.
Sammy is good at BC jumps and appears to be his major focus right now and has brought many new tricks that were only done in the park to the BC.
Candide was the first to clear the most legendary and one of the most dangerous BC jumps in skiing history. On that same jump he threw down a trick that was years ahead of the time in terms of BC jumping... at the age of what? 14-15? Even after recuperating from an injury that would end most peoples' careers, Candide still hits jumps that are comparable and some much larger and much more high consequence than Sammy's.
That's just 3 of many comparisons and reasons why comparing Sammy to Candide is idiotic. Sammy might be one of the best skiers in the game right now but there's a major difference between playing the game really well and changing the game altogether.
wasatch_rat
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candide has definitely done way more to progress the sport, probably more than anyone (with the arguable exception of thall), he has a way more impressive resume, and he still absolutely murders it on a level very few people can touch, but honestly, i think sammy might be a slightly better all around skier right now. sammy is in his prime and doing tricks in the bc that nobody else is, both with natural and man made jumps, he does gnarly urban every year, and until he retired from comps he was always a podium threat. i don't think we will have another legend on candide's level for a long time but sammy is pretty much tied with dane tudor as the best all around skier right now
Karma_Police
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13133732:JenniferGarner said:
Pretty much this is what I was trying to get at.
Oh, and he WON the FWT, not just a stop, much more impressive feat.
As a big mountain skier that's pretty much untouchable. Is sammy a legend? Sure. Is he in the same category as candide? Fuck no.
snomaster
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Sammy's best shit is yet to come. He's still young. The most impressive thing he's done in his career so far was tell all of his sponsors that he wasn't going to compete park events the year slope went to the Olympics. Then he lays down the most impressive pow edit (since CandideKamera1, but with even better tricks).
Sammy isn't just opening doors, he's taking doors off the hinges for others to follow. And besides, this shit isn't a contest anymore. These guys do it for the love of the sport.
Sammy isn't just opening doors, he's taking doors off the hinges for others to follow. And besides, this shit isn't a contest anymore. These guys do it for the love of the sport.
kim_jong_ill
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Whoever trows a quintuple to snow first will be the true god and will go down in history as a legend
Karma_Police
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13136126:LilTuneski said:
Shane
CR
Tanner
Candide
Pollard
Pep
Seth
Sage
Plake
All time? really? You guys need to realize skiing has been around longer than the twin tip.
Slowbro
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13136294:Karma_Police said:
Sorry b i was thinking park riders. My list would go something like Candide, Jon, Tanner, Sammy and either Bobby Brown (first triple flatspin, first triple 1440 and 1620) or Dumont, no order. No need to get all holier than thou/OG on me, I know all those riders and a lot of the history from freeskiing.
SpookyCat
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13136309:reedwj said:
Technically no, he hasn't seen the medal in years. Rumor has it he stuffed it up Keira Knightley's snatch when they ran into each other in Europe. He took her pickup line, "I'd like a little gold medalist in me" completely the wrong way. Two years later during an audition, it fell out and she landed her first major role in the soon-to-be movie franchise: Pirates of the Caribbean. The producers mistakenly thought she had purposely done this to show her commitment to the role.
Yes, that's right. Candide is also responsible for Keira Knightley's career taking off. Legendary.
freeski1620
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did not read this full thread but lol'd at the title. Candide won Xgames slope style gold a lot later in his career than sammy is now.
Sammy has a long way to go before he's a legend.
Sammy has a long way to go before he's a legend.
Karma_Police
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13136342:LilTuneski said:
I wans't trying to be holier than thou, just making the point so everyone in the thread gets it.