Is it bad to have a different DIN setting for the toe and heel piece?

It depends. Sometimes the springs in the bindings are innacurate, so you could have, say, 6s in front and 7s in back or the other way around, but they are really set pretty much the same. The only way you can really know if the springs are off is if you take them to a ski shop that has one of the new machines that can measure that. I've only ever seen that at one ski shop so I don't know how common it is.

I assume that that's not where you're going with this though. Do you have any reason to have them set different? If you really need them set different I don't see why it would be an issue, but I also find it strange that you expect to have harder falls and stronger forces at certain angles than at others, which is really the only reason you'd need them set different.
 
13082923:Sh4dow said:
It depends. Sometimes the springs in the bindings are innacurate, so you could have, say, 6s in front and 7s in back or the other way around, but they are really set pretty much the same. The only way you can really know if the springs are off is if you take them to a ski shop that has one of the new machines that can measure that. I've only ever seen that at one ski shop so I don't know how common it is.

I assume that that's not where you're going with this though. Do you have any reason to have them set different? If you really need them set different I don't see why it would be an issue, but I also find it strange that you expect to have harder falls and stronger forces at certain angles than at others, which is really the only reason you'd need them set different.

so like if i land from a jump sideways then obviously i want my skis to come off so i want to keep those relatively loose but i want to crank up the back din so i dont release out the back as easily. The only reason why i am asking is i have heard different opinions
 
13082983:spaceghostpurp said:
so like if i land from a jump sideways then obviously i want my skis to come off so i want to keep those relatively loose but i want to crank up the back din so i dont release out the back as easily. The only reason why i am asking is i have heard different opinions

That makes sense, but there's more than two ways to fall, so make sure you account for everything. Twisting a leg, landing backseat, tomahawking, landing sideways, landing too far forward, catching an edge, etc. Wanting your skis to release on sideways landings and not on straight landings doesn't necessarily mean that you can set your front and back different and still have them release with the correct amount of force with, say, catching an edge.

If you have considered all of that, and know what types of falls and releases require toe release versus heal release, then it should be fine, but don't think that having a low front DIN will always allow your skis to release when you want them to.

I would suggest talking to a ski tech at a ski shop, tell him what you told me (about landing sideways vs stomping big landings, etc), get advice from someone who knows more about bindings. Then you can at least get a rundown of what types of falls and releases typically rely on front DIN versus back DIN.
 
13082983:spaceghostpurp said:
so like if i land from a jump sideways then obviously i want my skis to come off so i want to keep those relatively loose but i want to crank up the back din so i dont release out the back as easily. The only reason why i am asking is i have heard different opinions

Ok you are thinking about this all wrong. If you are prereleasing when stomping a jump it mean you have your bindings set wrong or the binding just is not up to the job. For example if I ride salomon z 12's set on a din of 12 I will constantly pre release even when landing well. However if I ride my sth 16 set again to 12 I never pre release. The reason is the sth is designed for the type of riding involved in the park whetea the z was not.

as for releasing when you land sideways so long a you have the din set appropriately you won't have any issues. But getting the din right come back to my first point. You need a bindin which can hold the boot so that you don't need to crank the dins and risk injuries in falls where you need them to come of.
 
13083179:tomPietrowski said:
The reason is the sth is designed for the type of riding involved in the park whetea the z was not.

More likely it's because you're skiing a 12-DIN binding at 12. You should never be at the end of the DIN range. If you ski at 12, get bindings that go to at least 14.
 
13083497:Sh4dow said:
More likely it's because you're skiing a 12-DIN binding at 12. You should never be at the end of the DIN range. If you ski at 12, get bindings that go to at least 14.

No a 12 din binding will still release consistently even set on 12. If they didn't they could not have 12 as a setting. It's simply the fact that the z toe is not designed to hold the boot as well as the sth is.
 
13083554:tomPietrowski said:
No a 12 din binding will still release consistently even set on 12. If they didn't they could not have 12 as a setting. It's simply the fact that the z toe is not designed to hold the boot as well as the sth is.

A 12 is supposed to be the same on any binding but that doesn't make it true. Binding technology is not perfect and being near the edge of the range makes DIN less accurate.
 
13083555:Sh4dow said:
A 12 is supposed to be the same on any binding but that doesn't make it true. Binding technology is not perfect and being near the edge of the range makes DIN less accurate.

give it a rest bro you already lost most if not all your tech talk credibility with the i don't know what a toe height adjudstment is.

Your continued fountain of misinformation based on no real knowledge

is growing old.

every shop should have a vermont caliper/tourque device
 
yes, if you have your toes set different from your heels you will get aids.

also, if you ride a 12 din binding at 12, your kids will have aids. if you can have kids, cause you know, aids.
 
13083497:Sh4dow said:
More likely it's because you're skiing a 12-DIN binding at 12. You should never be at the end of the DIN range. If you ski at 12, get bindings that go to at least 14.

Also because the Z binding is one of the shittiest bindings around. I got a free pair a few years back and anything I did caused it to prerelease. I ended up just tossing them after a week or two.
 
13084307:Nillion said:
Also because the Z binding is one of the shittiest bindings around. I got a free pair a few years back and anything I did caused it to prerelease. I ended up just tossing them after a week or two.

I would not say they are shit it's just tey are not meant for park or aggressive skiers. They are one of te top selling bindings and work really well for lots of skiers. It's just like anything you need to get an appropriate product for the job.
 
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