Is global warming really something to worry about?
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SofaKingSick
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yes, climate change is very real and will become a very serious issue. anyone who tells you otherwise is completely fucking retarded, but that doesn't mean you won't bump into them a lot
PartyBullshiit
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Very real. Summers here in south Florida are hotter than ever before. We have more flooding than ever before. More houses and condos by the beach are under water after every ran storm.
Jems
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I remember there being so much more snowfall and generally stable temperatures as a kid. I know it's just anecdotal evidence, but the continuous fucked ass weather is enough evidence to justify climate change being very real. It shouldn't the 40-50 degrees for almost 2 weeks in MONTANA in the actual middle of the winter.
supremeblientele
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Yes and no. It’s definitely real and fucking our shit up, but there’s nothing you can really do about it. You can eat sustainably, bike to work, not use plastic etc etc etc but that’s not gonna stop mega corps, billionaires, retarded people and politicians from pumping co2 into our atmosphere.
Just gotta do what u can and accept it. Worrying isn’t gonna make ur situation any better tho.
Just gotta do what u can and accept it. Worrying isn’t gonna make ur situation any better tho.
PresidentSkroob
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It wasn’t until your fat bitch of a mother farted
snomaster
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selling solar panels helps me sleep better at night.
anyone looking for a great source for undisputed climate impact analysis I suggest to start here:
The Ice Chronicles: The Quest to Understand Global Climate Change
Paul Andrew Mayewski, Frank White
anyone looking for a great source for undisputed climate impact analysis I suggest to start here:
The Ice Chronicles: The Quest to Understand Global Climate Change
Paul Andrew Mayewski, Frank White
Jems
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14588152:supremeblientele said:
Nothing will change until it personally affects corps, rich people, or even the government. Any big step towards legitimate sustainability would probably be considered socialism or just a waste of money by a large portion of the US population. Thankfully most corps are required by law to report their sustainability goals publicly, and many surprisingly at least try to attempt to live up to those goals. The biggest problem is cost of energy really.
SlushSeason
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Honestly even if the Western mega corps and billionaires stopped pumping CO2 into the air, we'd still be fucked. China, India, and soon also Africa just have so many people and the environment is so far down their list of priorities that they'll continue to fuck it up, with our without us.
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KungKalmar
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14588106:Camoba said:
Where from did you pull this bullshit 80 years? More and more side effects are showing up already.
PartyBullshiit
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14588161:SlushSeason said:
Can’t control others but we can control ourselves. Just because others will keep doing bad doesn’t mean we can’t clean up. Anything is better than nothing. This nonsense of “well they won’t so why should we” needs to die.
skietedavidson
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How does your ski mountain/hill look so far this winter?
SuperSexySkier69
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14588115:SofaKingSick said:
climate change isn't real
little1337
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If you need an NS thread to determine if climate change is real or not, you got bigger fish to fry brotha
SuperSexySkier69
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14588196:ethannn said:
go fry some fish lil boy
little1337
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14588196:ethannn said:
2nd post bait, I fear, but I’ll bite
You can’t have an opinion on climate change, you can either acknowledge it’s real, or are wrong.
SuperSexySkier69
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14588199:little1337 said:
nah
SlushSeason
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I'm not saying we shouldn't make our own efforts. But the common discourse is "we could totally solve this if not for Trump/Bezos/Taylor Swift!!"
In reality you need to crush Chinese industry and also incentivize India, Africa, and Southeast Asia to industrialize with the environment in mind.
In reality you need to crush Chinese industry and also incentivize India, Africa, and Southeast Asia to industrialize with the environment in mind.
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KungKalmar
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14588220:Camoba said:
Utah is too south to get +80 years of skiing if we stay on the same tracks. Arctic circle is the future of skiing
Jems
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14588218:SlushSeason said:
China is actually slowly losing its grip on manufacturing as they’ve developed so much in the last few decades that other SE Asian countries got cheaper labor. The problem with developing countries hitting a manufacturing renaissance is that they will be using fossil fuels to do so no matter what. Unless someone somehow invents a cheap, and environmentally friendly energy source (oil moguls would probably find a way to kill that tech anyways), developing countries will keep polluting excessively as it’s the only option they have. I think the real future problem will be Africa, at some point the entire continent might become the world’s manufacturing hub like China was. Considering how richly packed Africa is with natural resources, combined with their general complete lack of environmental consideration, I think they’ll be seriously fucking the environment over as more African countries become developed. I seriously doubt there’s any chance in the world that a poorer country would willingly choose to use environmentally conscious methods of development.
Jacob Wester did a great film called walk the walk where he toured on foot for every line in that film. It was refreshing to see a pro taking a stance against climate change. Global warming is definitely real and we are all feeling its effects this winter. But let's not forget this sport we all love on here also contributes in part to the problem, not to be all cynical. The fuel to power chairlifts, snowmobiles, snowcats, the cars and buses that get people to and from the mountain and the snowplows that keep our access to these mountains clear. That heli shot from your favorite ski movie. The factories that build out skis. And where do the materials from our skis go when they're dead? Probably into a landfill and into our ecosystem. I could keep going but my point to this is not to crush anyone or our beloved sport but to highlight that with everything good there is an inherent consequence. Global warming IS affecting large corporations like Vail and all the Epic/Ikon resorts and yet there is no effort towards sustainability. It would be nice to see a prominent figure in the ski world, such as Vail, to step up and put some effort into protecting our winters, what that is or could be idk because all these things are necessary for our sport. for the time being all we can do is our individual part as far as sustainability goes. Love all you fuckers on here and hopefully we can keep shredding for a long time.
GorillaMarketGMK
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14588149:Jems said:
It’s been dryer than fire season around Bozeman this winter, basically been spring since November started
supremeblientele
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14588256:mrk127 said:
fr man. North America still hasn’t seen the direct effects quite so much as europe/asia. My homies family in France runs a grape vineyard and they’re having record all time low harvest numbers due to climate shift. This vineyard has been In there family for generations and there considering selling because there just not able to harvest what they have been for the last hundreds of years
switchlip2
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The place where I grew up went from having snow on the ground from November to march to having one real snowfall a year
i actually wrote a thesis paper about this last year. after combing through weather data and science journals and write ups for a couple weeks i came to the conclusion that we are going to see more huge seasons like last year. This is because warmer air masses will be able to scoop more water out of oceans and lakes than the colder air masses of yesterday. Pretty soon, I think the snow totals of last season will look like nothing. But we will also get way more variability from season to season because weather patterns are shifting in latitude pretty consistently from where they have normally been, hence this dog shit season with weird weather patterns. After about 30 years of insane snow seasons with dud seasons sprinkled in, there will be a plateau in snow fall before a complete drop off. The temps will finally be to high and instead of snow it will be rain. The average estimate for this to happen was in 30 years, meaning some scientists think it will happen in 10 years and some think it will happen in 50 years.
TLDR: get your laps in while you can
TLDR: get your laps in while you can
IsaacNW82
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One of weirder things we are already seeing is although snowfall is decreasing overall, big years are getting bigger, but drought years are getting worse.
Two years ago, it basically didn't snow for two-ish months in a row in LCC. Last year it snowed 900 inches in Alta.
Avalanche educators and forecasters basically assumed D5 avalanches didn't happen in Colorado, in March of 2019 they had 3.
My best guess is this trend will only continue, I wouldn't be surprised to see mountains hit 1000" for the first time ever nor would I be surprised to see big western resorts unable to open natural terrain some years at all
Two years ago, it basically didn't snow for two-ish months in a row in LCC. Last year it snowed 900 inches in Alta.
Avalanche educators and forecasters basically assumed D5 avalanches didn't happen in Colorado, in March of 2019 they had 3.
My best guess is this trend will only continue, I wouldn't be surprised to see mountains hit 1000" for the first time ever nor would I be surprised to see big western resorts unable to open natural terrain some years at all
SteezyYeeter
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14588106:Camoba said:
the only sensible answer here. acknowledging it is real while not being alarmist. ?
Steezarmada
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14588106:Camoba said:
I heard it gets pretty cold in mars
Christian_Bale
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14588161:SlushSeason said:
Yeah but North Americans rely on China for a ton of their manufacturing, not to mention our co2 per capita is way higher. Also, consider what percentage of Americans own vehicles and then consider what the situation if the same happened with India and China.
The fact of the matter is, the US, UK, and other countries went through an early period of industrialization that was essentially unrestricted. Other countries, who are late to the game, so to speak, might see it as unfair that countries like the US were essentially allowed to pollute their way to success while they are subject to criticism for doing the same. It does suck but I get it.
freestyler540
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14588256:mrk127 said:
This happens when people live in a fantasy world their entire lives. The very second reality confronts their beliefs; they reject reality and commit deeper into their fantasy world. Think Fox news corporation.
Ive given up; its already too late. Idiocracy is upon us.
Farmville420
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14588256:mrk127 said:
Because some people live in areas that aren't really affected the way others are.
Like for example I grew up in CT and just like a lot of new England the snow cycles are extremely strong but spaced out. This is still the case, we will get about 1-5 feet per storm several times a year. You dont get flurries really, just huge dumps and then nothing for months. Growing up, the snow never melted between storms, but now it melts within a week or so. So people in my state have noticed it change rapidly.
If you grew up in Texas, you probably haven't noticed much of a difference in the climate at all. I can actually see how a lot of the southern states would think it's not a problem because their weather hasn't changed that much compared to other places.
egirl.ski
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14588311:SteezyYeeter said:
as someone who skis in vermont, you should know and recognize that the snowpack is noticeably worse that it was 10 years ago.
how many times in the last 3 years has MRGs base lodge flooded due to unprecedented midwinter rainfall??
I will not be surprised if Mad River Glen doesn’t open for the season sometime in the next 10 years.
The devastating truth is that climate change is real and has already had drastic effects on our snowpacks.
I guess you basically weren’t alive 10 years ago so…
SmokedGouda
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14588225:JalmarKalmar said:
tell that to the people who run Deer Valley XD
SteezyYeeter
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14588423:egirl.ski said:
yeah i was gonna clarify that i didn't mean to say it already hasn't started affecting skiing. obviously it has. winter here sux.
however saying MRG won't open at all is absolutely ridiculous. as many others have stated the weather patterns are going to get more extreme so there 100% will never be a season with no snow. i could see them closing shortly mid-season after the snowpack is wiped out though.
additionally, MRG start/opening dates have remained virtually the same since the 40s.
**This post was edited on Feb 7th 2024 at 10:55:01am
14588506:SteezyYeeter said:
I was just down at mad 2 weeks ago and we had great conditions for how bad the season started for them. The first day we were skiing thin skied off bumps and the second day we were skiing 6+ inches in spots. They have an uncanny way of rebounding from shitty weather. to yeeters point, I think we're going to start to see sporadic big storms then nothing for a while compared to consistent snowfall throughout winter. I don't think they'll have an issue with no snow and not opening just based off of where they're located, but the amount of snowfall and conditions will definitely start to change as time moves on
**This post was edited on Feb 7th 2024 at 11:09:50am
partyandBS
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we are in an el nino which does impact your local
weather pretty significantly which does spark added interest in climate change. it most certainly is a very real phenomenon going on that is undoubtedly propelled by human behavior. its obviously an extremely complex matter that has global implications so there is no silver bullet for addressing it
weather pretty significantly which does spark added interest in climate change. it most certainly is a very real phenomenon going on that is undoubtedly propelled by human behavior. its obviously an extremely complex matter that has global implications so there is no silver bullet for addressing it
GayWolf420
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@sonoranavalanchecenter needs an NS account