Is big mountain underrated here in newschoolers?

Turd.Ferguson

Turd.Ferguson

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Hey guys, on the forums here theres not a lot of big mountain shredders out there that im aware of. or im just a retard im not sure but yeah.
 
Well seeing how big mountain takes actual skiing ability to do, I doubt there are many kids on here that appreciate it...
 
There are plenty here, but there's less to talk about in thread form. It's not like you're asking opinions on grabs or anything when you're just skiing.

big mountain stories are told over beers. Not the internet.
 
Newschoolers is more orientated towards park skiing, TGR forums has a lot more big mountain skiing discussion, however Newschoolers is way more fun.
 
There a lot of big mountain skier they just dont harass every thread like us east coast kids who when somebody talks about skiing pow every kid feels like saying they never skied big mountain
 
There's a 15 page thread on ski touring; and kids frequently asking questions about pow and charging skis in GT. So to say that it's under appreciated is silly, it's just less pronounced.
 
id love to go big mountain skiing, but living on the east coast his its cost and helicopters are expensive...
 
This. But its usually a rare thing to see a big mountain edit on the home page which makes me a little bored because it isn't very entertaining to see some kid bonk against rails to some shitty underground rap
 
Why don't you just get it going?

I mean this place is only what the community makes it. If you guys are getting into big mountain then fucking have at it.

 
Man, were going to turn this whole forum into a place about surfboarding squirrels.

Seriously though, I think the content we get from the touring thread, and any other pow content is the tits when we do get it. Part of why we don't see it as much is it's just not as accessible to most. A good percentage of the skiers here won't even see pow once a year. That's just what it comes down to.
 
NS doesn't even know what "Big Mountain" is. Kids from Quebec probably think that groomers in Colorado are "Big Mountain".
 
Yes.

It is.

I posted a video of skiing outside the park in Breck and people were so confused on here. They were like wait a minute that is Breck?
 
or about half of ns is on the east coast without backcountry. Also backcountry is a lot more difficult to film and so there are a lot fewer edits of it. Plus younger kids prefer park because one can backcountry ski his whole life but you can only go hard in the park into your early thirties
 
Idk. If you are really pushing yourself to your limit in the bc it is just as taxing on your body. But that's just my opinion
 
Well Newschoolers was created for "newschool" skiing, which is park skiing. There is nothing "newschool" about "Big Mountain". Move to TGR if you're not happy.
 
Wow, some awesome insight from someone that has obviously never left the park! The EC doesn't have any "backcountry"? Hahahaha. OK, yeah, you're a fucking moron.

Oh and there's a difference between "backcountry" skiing and big mountain, buddy-baby.
 
Don't be a smartass, he knows there is a difference between "big mountain" and "backcountry".

Try skiing "backcountry" on a 200ft vertical hill. The boot high powder is too deep to even enjoy because there is never enough speed to go through it all. So yes you need a "big mountain" to enjoy some backcountry.
 
I agree with op on this one. The park shit is fucking rad but I am retarded in anything that resembles one. I think that ns should kinda umbrella the whole doing rad shit on skis thing though no matter what the setting. Guys like Pettit, I feel bring a lot of what ns is about to the whole bc scene. And sometimes you see shit in the woods and stuff that you would never see in the park like a billy goat in heat or bigfoot cleveland steamrolling a musk ox, i mean that is always exciting and stuff. Its mainly the trade off between slutty mammals and sending it off rails.
 
I love me some big mountain, but I don't think it's as fun to watch. Plus many of us don't live in areas where big mountain skiing is even an option, so the small amount of big mountain material is far outweighed by park edits.
 
if your talking about the east coast you can still always get to some backcountry wiht a bit of driving. mt washington, khatadin, the chic chocs, sugarloaf, stowe...all have much more than 200 ft of vert.

not to mentions the torngat mountains in northern quebec/labrador, where you can ski from 5000 ft right down to the ocean...but these arent exactly a short car ride away from most places.
 
^Of course there are some good mountains out east, but sadly not every NSer is all that close to them to experience some good backcountry.
 
I think more kids on here need to realize freesking outside the parks. We need to see more 3s, butters, tricks in mogul runs and off cliffs with variations in-bounds at resorts. Drop a cliff with a trick and ski a line. Try to pop a 3 off a cornice and stomp it...i bet you won't be able to send, trick, land and ski out of it first try. Create more fluidity in your run with tricks cause its so much more fun to turn the mountain in a natural park then hit the same jump over and over the 'same way' other people do. I would like to see more edits like Ian Borgenson and the rest of the Abay crew. Throw a 5 into a switch 180 and then ski out of it. Make shit creative around the resort.
 
Yes because I have no idea of ANY backcountry skiing in NE.

Also 200 vert? Hahaha, so we have the second moron to proclaim his park rattyness. Bold of you, young childs.
 
i always thought NS was accepting of big mountain skiers

there are usually threads about cliff drops etc. in SG all the time
 
You do realize how much harder it is to film pow and lines in general than it is to film park. Inbounds gets tracked out pretty fast depending on your resort (only place that this is an acceptation i maybe revy), and it can be a while between storm (both of these apply in whistler) so really your only option to get your runs in while getting shots is POV. Ski touring is better, less people and less tracks, but the terrain you can access takes a lot of knowledge of the area to find good lines. If your trying to film pillows on a touring setup, having to hike each hit really limits how much you can get done in a day. So really the 'easiest' way to film amateur pow is with sleds, but those cost $5000+ to even buy one, then you have gas, parts, air bag (I'd say mandatory when you add sleds to the equation). After all this, you need a dedicated filmer who doesn't care that he won't get freshies that day.... It sucks, but there is a reason kids aren't out filming pow in bounds at resorts....

But that was super negative so please enjoy some pow edits:

Mega Trip: BC//Stop Two- Revelstoke from Mega Trip: BC on Vimeo.

Pilloh-ohh-ohhhs with Nick McNutt from Nick McNutt on Vimeo.

Tuesday's Dead Episode 3 Teaser shots, Pillows, Booters and more from Scott Titterington on Vimeo.
 
Goddamn I did not ski enough pow this year...silly Tahoe.

Big mountain isn't necessarily underrated, but it definitely feels like it now cause it's all spring park edits. not much big mountain ish goin down in May, for the most part.
 
There's this girl at my school who apparently does big mountain competitions and stuff and I guess she's really good because they gave her like half a page in our year book, but the article was stupid and the person who wrote it didn't know what the fuck they were talking about... Maybe I'll give her that D and she can teach me how to ski back country in return...
 
this is what i always aim for when skiing off piste. if i'm instructing, i will go and lap some pow runs and send it off everything i can find in lunch break. it's great to create some stoke and hear people whooping from the chairlift. if you've seen the "remembering travis steeger" vid then that's what i want to achieve... if only more of ns felt the same.
 
I don't skin up mountains but I do bootpack up places for some big mountain/bc shit. I'm mainly a bc person that only got into park skiing this season because the snow was terrible at tahoe.

park skiing is really fun too though. i'm loving the jumps and rails
 
It's more about education. Ok it's a strong word for what I'm gonna say. But basically, if every time you skied it was on some random hill on slopes scared in the middle of aspen trees, it makes great sense that you'll talk about what you know most. Since NS is mostly a US community and that in the US you have more hills than mountains, obviously most NSers won't know much about big mountain.Don't get me wrong, I know you have high peaks in the US but we can't say that it's accessible to everyone. Furthermore, USA is a huge country and mountains arn't everywhere, unlike here in EUrope where most of the action happens on big mountains.
 
Newschool skiing is absolutely not just park skiing. I'd certainly say that Nimbus has a Newschool vibe in the backcountry. There's plenty of examples of newschool ideals floating into the big mountain world.

Park is definitely a big part of it, but as a park skier grows and explores everything else they don't simply stop becoming a newschooler.

TGR is a different methodology of going about skiing.

 
Well with all due respect, that's what makes it fucking special.

Out west, you can probably look up from anywhere nearby and see dozens of skiable sick lines on nasty peaks right there for the taking- there's probably tons of beta on the approach you could find with a quick google, historical info on the snowpack safety and probably others that will be there on the same day. Skintracks are often packed into a glacial luge track and some places literally see hundreds and hundreds if not thousands of visitors a day.

In the east, your likelihood of seeing a line from the road is MAYBE 50/50, and even if you can see it it's probably a bitch or possibly a total bushwhack to get to. There will likely be no skintrack set and it may be a judgement call on where to go/stop/ski down to/etc. etc. etc. You probably won't see anybody there, and most likely won't see another set of tracks depending on the spot. There are a lot of skiable runs right off the long trail, etc. but they are still well hidden and often require long skins back out. There are just so many hidden, unnamed jewels that remain personal secrets, it's just a very special thing when you get to ski them. The lines here have so much character and challenge, they are always different and it's just so exciting to rip.

I have a few pics in my media of some pretty sweet lines in EC BC, but here are a few more.

These are from the Northern Green Spine this winter

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This one's from West Virginia, when Hurricane Sandy hit and dropped 3 feet of pow in October and we drove I think 13 hours to get there and slept in evacuated hotels with no heat and ate FEMA food because everything else was without power and skied/burned/drank moonshine with the coolest local dudes ever. I mean seriously- I wouldn't trade that road trip or that skiing story for anything and it's a classic trip I will always remember. It's everything that makes the east awesome.

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So you see, it's never going to happen for you in the east, you have to go out and make it happen yourself. It might rain at your house but the dedicated EC BC skier will have an eye on the elevation report and have a plan in place. I've actually hiked through 1k ft of rain to get to the 2+ ft of snow at the top several times and it was awesome every time- incredibly surreal experience.

It's sad that some people are ignorant enough to think the hills in the east are 200ft and unskiable with 6" of pow. It's actually quite insulting. Stop that.

A 1500-2000ft run with steep, tight trees, rocks, logs, stumps, cliffs, drops and any number of obstacles is more likely- also super fun and incredibly challenging. It's a massive departure from the BC I ski when I go out west.

SO yeah, make no mistake, it isn't going to come easy if you live in the east- but if you don't mind working for it and putting in your time, you'll be rewarded in ways most won't even understand.

 
This.

The NS freeskiing movement is catching on in BC riding and fillming in a big way. Like someone above said, it's SUPER hard to get powlines at a resort to film as tere's so much traffic- but in the BC you can take your time and get that shot.

Park skiing isn't just in the park. It's an extension of your game, a card in your deck to be played at a time when it's appropriate whether that's a park booter or a BC cliff huck.

 
I think it'll slowly trickle in, as people like B Dog or Henrik move into the BC and big lines with style and guys like Andy Parry and Will Wesson bring pow to NS quickly, with B&E in EOS and Blackout (Check the end) and the LTC with "Which way to ze Autobahn" and the Japan episode. There's already Sammy out there doing big things in BC and Pettit bringing the lines side in. I think NS generally though follows park but there are just as many who love pow here as well.
 
I wonder if NS woud give a fuck about a BC webisode style deal sort of like Treveling Circus but all BC and nobody famous in it. I've been poking around the idea of it and have a few heads ready to roll on both the skier end and the A/V side, but I'm not sure it would be worth anyone's time to do. What do you guys think? Is this something you'd want to watch?
 
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Here's something I rode a week ago, hiked 1/2 hour from the top for it, that's my bud Aldo Hall going just before me (NS: AlexHall) and it was first tracks and some nice pow to charge down
 
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