Is 16mm good?

Snowcase

Snowcase

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I know alot of movie makers still film with it but for a filmaker like me that has about no money is it worth it? I know the cost is pretty high like $.75 per foot of film to produce it. I'm trying to get some good quality film without paying thousands. I was also thinking the VX1000.
 
I hope you know how much a 16mm camera costs too...you can buy yourself a VX2100 with a death lens and a brand new turnkey editing system and then some with the cost of one of those bad boys.
 
actually some older ones that arn't the best quality are cheaper but the cost to produce the film into something editable is more expensive
 
I personally would recommend just like a panasonic DVX 100 for filming until you actually start pulling in some cash, then you can invest in film. Just remember that nothing can top the quality of film.
 
def. dont even start with film until you are filming for a flick you expect to make money with... for the 16 too look good you have to know what you are doing or it will end up like hi-8 transfered to 35mm
 
yea laos jumping from that camerayour using now to 16 mm is not being really realistic, you should defintly spend a lot fo time researching on the actual filming and stregnths of cameras as oppose to the price.

also there are only a few mainstream cameras ( i dont know anything about filming whatsoever) but some of htem are the :

vx 1000 and vx 2000 by sony

the gl2 by cannon

the dvx1 or soemthign what the guy suggested earlier you should lok into these probably if you want to get serious ,

i dont actually knwo naythign im jsut tryign to give you some actual/ helpful advice as oppose to just comment somethign stupid.
 
haha unless you get free film development have fun going broke in 1 day of shooting.

Just get a used vx1 and if you have more to spend, get a century mk1 death or if u wana bugit it, a raynox mx3000 for only $100.
 
i have experience with film that is the only reason i would consider it. I am going to get a vx1000 i just don't know when. I have a $800 camera now but it isn't as good as the vx
 
yea i was looking into a 16mm camera for a while. but to end up with shots that most ski movies have (msp, tgr, tbc, pbp, etc) you have to have more recent cameras, by arriflex or bolex or something. then the film... and the processing (which isnt that bad) and yea

its cheaper overall to get a new consumer hd than 16mm. but a vx is dope
 
berman doesn't really use any 16mm and look how good his movies look, probably better than anyone else. with the advances in digital video you can get some real nice cameras like the song hd-fx1.
 
as far as cost goes, ya its cheaper to go digital, you can get some 16mm setups for around the same price as a really nice digital setup, its just you will keep putting money into film and developing and telecine. i would highly suggest that if you go digital and you have the money, go with the Panasonic DVX-100A, i think its a little better then what sony has. With the new sony HD camera thats out that berman is using, the only problem with it is that at the moment (correct me if i am wrong) but they don't have out the HD-DVDR discs yet, so shooting in HD would be kind of pointless because you're not going to get the HD quality out of it.
 
you just gotta have a program that can capture the HD like final cut HD and i think premiere has it now too.
 
yes and no. you are right that there are no dvd's that can actually record true HD. But i can still tell the difference between an HDV cam and a regular mini-dv.
 
just because dvd's don't spit out hd doesn't mean if you shoot hd and export to dvd your movies will sudden;t look like a trv.
 
I've actually heard DVD's will be HD by summer/fall as well.

Regardless, HD-DVD will soon become the standard and if you are shopping for a camera, buy HD. Otherwise you will be wanting to upgrade in a year anyhow.
 
Haha...I hope that is a joke...but yes, I personally think that it is very easy to avoid it. Lots of snowboard movies are made digitally and look very sick. If you get a VX1 you will be more than happy with it.
 
Panasonic's new HVX200 can do true 1080p...so you're telling me that there is no media you can record to? You kids really need to learn about the high end stuff.
 
the vx1000 is the best choice if you want to spend around 1000, the 2000 isnt as good during the day and worse sound quality. only get the 2000 if you want to film in real low light alot.
 
you're wrong the vx21 is better in all light conditions. And sound for skiing and skateboarding doesn't really matter that much. If you're worried about sound for other stuff then you'd use an external mic anyway. and then you'd be dissapointed the vx's don't have xlr plugs.
 
plus the Sony HDR-FX1 only shoots HD interlaced. I don't know about you, but just my opinion, interlaced is gay lookin. Anf film has the biggest advantage over digital when it comes to slo mo, unless you pay $43905743074 dollars for the Pani HD cam.
 
alright, first of, search ebay. i have 3 top end german 16mm cameras and 4 8mm and super 8mm. all for under 100 bucks a peice. most of them are people with cameras their family had back then and ffigure what the hell, get 20 bucks on ebay. but i researched cameras for about 4 months before i finally got mine, i looked at the sonys, canons, panasonic, jvc, and some weird japanese brand.

with the sony's, they look like a nice camera, but your paying too much. they have a very high tendency of breaking. sony just looked more into the lets cram it full of useless features. and when you film on it, once its on tape...it just looks really digital. they cheaped out on the lens. but, it does have nightmode which is something i wouldnt mind having, but at the time not worth the extra 700 bucks.

with the panasonics, they are SUPER nice cameras, they just cost way too much. and are too limited, you need to keep buying things to expand its useability.

this is getting way too long, but in my opinion, the canons are the way to go...they are just a camera company. where as sony is trying to capatalize everything...same with panasonic, they cant concentrate on cameras as much as canon. the canon has the blue florite lens, which makes it an amzing picture. in my opinion, for the least amount, as far as a top end consumer camera goes, the canon gl1 or 2 blow any of the others away.

oh, and you can get 16mm film from kodak, check their website its pretty cheap. and they devlope it for free with the purchase. and you can have it transfered to digital discs so you dont have to find a way. hope that helps.
 
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