IRAQ - whaddya think?

quoteDo you really think that ALL the facts are being released? Do you think that they can give us all of the real reasons for the stuff they do? No they can't. /quote

Yeah, as long as it isn't YOU or YOUR loved ones dying for unknown reasons you are for it it, huh? .. So if you support this MILITARY ACTION --- join up or SHUT UP

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'Real men don't JIB - they ski 207 longboards' -CTGOSAL
 
i think, basically george w bush is so dumb, because in his little world video games and real life are the exact same thing. i don't know how to say it. that's the georgeball with the bushchocolate.

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^^ right on. bush is a fucking idiot. he got us into this pointless mess, and he cant get us out. if he is re-elected, i think i will shoot myself.

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well...obviously this war is about oil...why else would we be in iraq...and if it isnt, why does bush have HUGE ties to oil...back in his home town of texas...hes just finishing the job his daddy started...i have a question...why was the bin laden family the only people allowed to fly on september 12th and 13th?! they lived in america and were flown back home when all this ish went down...hmmm very interesting, why is there a picture of the bush family eating dinner with the bin laden family POST 9/11...hmmm very interesting, and if i were over there...i wouldnt be fighting for america...no, i would be fighting for me...trying to save my life...america is gunna be ok...obviously what one soldier does is not going to affect how america is or isnt...they tell the soldiers to not think about america, or home, cause thats when they get all patriotic, and do some stupid shit, or beat the crap out of some iraqi cause of what happend back home....fight for yourself and your buddies next to you...thats what they are taught, FUCK WAR...thats all i have to say, i dont believe in the killing of any human...there is never a time when taking another human beings life is ok...never

rock out witcha cock out...boyd

keep ur ski tips up...plake, learn from the best, die by the sword
 
^ someone read dude wheres my country, hahaha good stuff brotha.... just be careful what you take from michael moore

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haha moore is a fuckin pimp!

rock out witcha cock out...boyd

keep ur ski tips up...plake, learn from the best, die by the sword
 
yeah there was a special show on CBC of how much bullshit Bush is in and how many ties he has with the bin ladens and shit. the link is cbc.ca/filth

----now i lay me down to sleep, blah blah blah my soul to keep, if i die before i wake ill go to hell for heavens sake
 
i think some people are being very ignorant. Most people will willingly admit that politicians are very crafty, and have other motivations than what we see for alot of what they do, but when someone even suggests that Bush may not be telling us everything, they think that is an outragious idea. People should at least explore the idea that what the president is saying may not actually be the case.

 
sad but true but the list is too long

if i had to name you all it wouldnt be fit in this song, this magnums got me thinkin and its making me pissed, your lives were taken to early and you will always be missed, all the mothers who cry and the fathers who mourn, for every lifes that taken theres another child born, that doesn't make it better and it doesn't make it right, im just thankful everyday that you came in my life. -transplant

i say stop the fukin' death.

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stop american deaths so more iraqis can die when one religious sect seizes power and starts ethnic cleansing....yea, lets bring the boys home. i mean we started it, now just let them fix it.

you have got to be fucking kidding me, ^that is in essence what you are saying.

concept108 is a fag

 
So why don't you leave ATTITASH and enlist? Don't wanna die?

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'Real men don't JIB - they ski 207 longboards' -CTGOSAL
 
you are a stupid fuck.

let me spell this out for you:

if we leave iraq now (withdraw all troops), the country would fall into disarray. the religious sects would start fighting for control, it would be chaos.

not only would many more people die, but the place would become an even greater breeding ground for terrorists.

concept108 is a fag

 
HERE'S THE PROBLEM: You can't win fighting this kind of war. People will say and do pretty much whatever you want them to if you have a gun to their head, but they don't actually belive. You can't force Western democracy on them, their society is vastly different than ours.

 
it's not about forcing democracy there, i dont think it will ever really work, but the important part is maintaining order until some sort of viable government is operational. what we shouldnt do is simply pull out now, because we dont want to risk the immediate loss of life for Americans. the danger to iraqis and future americans warrants our continued occupation of iraq.

concept108 is a fag

 
i dont support it and if i were to be enlisted, id roll out to whistler

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Hey FUCKFACE at Attitash - answer the question: If you are for American soldiers dying, WHY do you not enlist? Rather be 'jibbing' at Attitash then getting your legs blown off?

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'Real men don't JIB - they ski 207 longboards' -CTGOSAL
 
Attitash, i agree with that point. we really couldn't pull out now because there shit is so out of order. we shouldn't have gone in, but now that we are their, we need to get them together and let them control their country. you can tell they want us out.

 
'Yeah, as long as it isn't YOU or YOUR loved ones dying for unknown reasons you are for it it, huh?'

You know what? Every person in Iraq right now volunteered. They all knew they could go to war when they enlisted. I would still be for it if it was me or my loved ones.

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what you are saying is that you value american lives over those of iraqis. and you are entitled to your opinion, but i think that is xenophobic and downright wrong, as im sure many of your liberal friends would agree.

phish *live* at fleetcenter on Dec. 2 is gonna be so sick
 
Attitush, you knoweth not what you talketh about, and you are a hypocrite. So please tell us WHY you do not want to join the military then? Rather let someone ELSE die/get maimed for your ideals, huh? Put your money where your mouth is. Rather JIB at Attitash and go to PHISH concerts? PHISH won't be playing Baghdad soon. And my 'Liberal friends? You don't even know what 'liberal' means chump. Allow me to educate you:

Liberal --adjective

1 relating to or having social and political views that favor progress and reform

2 relating to or having policies or views advocating individual freedom

3 giving and generous in temperament or behavior

4 tolerant of other people

5 abundant; lavish

example: a liberal helping of cream

6 not strict; free

7 of or relating to an education that aims to develop general cultural interests and intellectual ability

noun

8 a person who has liberal ideas or opinions

ETYMOLOGY: 14th Century: from Latin liberalis of freedom, from liber free

'liberally adverb(ial)

'liberalness noun

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conservative --adjective

1 favoring the preservation of established customs, values, etc., and opposing innovation

2 tending to be moderate or cautious

3 conventional in style or type

4 a person who is reluctant to change or consider new ideas; conformist

5 a supporter or advocate of conservatism

adjective, noun

con'servatively adverb(ial)

con'servativeness noun

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'Real men don't JIB - they ski 207 longboards' -CTGOSAL
 
wow. CT i think you need to chill a lil bit. attitash i hear ya.

lets look at this way. bush is not to blame, but he is b/c he is the focal point of the us gov't. a bit of rhetoric yes, but normal too.

the war has simply gone downhill. we have have found no hard evidence currently that proves Iraq has possession of WMDs. Sure they admitted to having them, sure they wouldn't let us in the country, but none of that really matters until we find hard evidence. just as in our own judicial system hard evidence is the only key.

you know theres a problem with the war when one of the instigators of the war, donald rumsfield, declares that the war is going nowhere. he does not see the expected progress.

US soldier morale is dropping. the iraqi people are growing more and more apprehensive. the us has a great deal of influence over the reconstruction of their country. iraqi board members attempting to establish a provisional gov't worry that the US is too distant and dettached a power to effectively help, thus wishing that they themselves have the greater influence over provisional gov't plans.

over all this war is a testament to the problems of seeing politics in black and white. our failure to be able to step back and construct a more feasible, progressive pan for iraq has been exploited.

we are playing a double role - both as 'peace'keepers and reconstructionists. we are stretching thin our ability to effectively help iraq.

-AndrewP

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Go Fishing. Go Ride.

 
true. however, just because we are having some difficulty does not mean that we should immediately withdraw and leave iraq to its own internal struggles.

my question for ctgoal is, would you protest the mistreatment of workers in developing countries?

phish *live* at fleetcenter on Dec. 2 is gonna be so sick
 
some difficulty? i think its more than the gov't expected. in my eyes, we are now having to step down from the high horse we rode in on and face the truths about Iraq's reconstruction.

of course we cna't pull out, but there are better options than the current plan of attack. we should remove ourselves from the reconstruction process, taking only the part of a moderator in the provisional gov't. that way we allow the iraqis to independently build and maintain their prov. gov't. at the same time, we can focus more money and time on securing iraq and quelling rebel forces.

in addition i believe we should bring in the UN (kinda botched that already) but at least try and get the UN into iraq as a political force, outside help from a neutral part would be extremely beneficial to the gov't's reconstruction.

-AndrewP

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Go Fishing. Go Ride.

 
i believe the americans are helping iraq set up such a government, not creating it in hopes that the iraqis will use it. my point is that i dont think we can trust anyone else to maintain relative peace and domestic security. while i think it is terrible that we are losing some of our finest soldiers, i would rather have a dozen trained soldiers who know the risks involved die than an unsuspecting group of innocent iraqi civilians trying to create a democratic government that is not reliant on islam. wow that was a long sentance, im sorry, just hope you understand what im trying to say.

phish *live* at fleetcenter on Dec. 2 is gonna be so sick
 
i totally agree, seperating church from state will be key in the new iraq gov't. but another question is the people - will they be cogniscent of the necessity to change and create political parties that are not attached to religion?

-AndrewP

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Go Fishing. Go Ride.

 
i think another important question is if Iraq can exist as one country. Originally, it was simply defined by the british. 3 regional ethic groups have always been in conflict

phish *live* at fleetcenter on Dec. 2 is gonna be so sick
 
'i totally agree, seperating church from state will be key in the new iraq gov't. but another question is the people - will they be cogniscent of the necessity to change and create political parties that are not attached to religion?'

Amazing how ignorant American kids are..Don't understand other cultures at all..

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'Real men don't JIB - they ski 207 longboards' -CTGOSAL
 
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