Invaders Mounted 1cm Back? Problem?

barberdude

barberdude

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I just got my 08/09 invaders mounted and the shop freggin mounted them like 1cm back, is this gonna completely screw-up how they ski? I have been riding the orignal invaders mounted correctly for 3 years so I know how they should ski, but I haven't been out on the new ones. Anyone have this happen to them?

I'm so pissed, the shop also screwed up when they first started mounting and had to remount one toe piece, they gave me my money back on the mounting, but I'm still furious.
 
id searchbar to see what people did last year, if i remember correctly there was a huge thread about shop tech fuckups (cant say they were all the shop tech's fault though). Iam pretty sure you can get them to replace your skis, since that is a huge fuckup, its not like you asked them for a special mount other than recommended... not to mention they fucked up mounting one of your toepeices so they had to do it again... thats just poor workmanship
 
This is the second year in a row shops have fucked up my mount point by 1cm. I was VERY clear where I wanted it this time and I did go to a different shop. I guess I dont really know what the fuck to do now. I really dont think I can tell the difference, but its just fucking annoying~
 
The best part about all this is they actually sell invaders at this shop. Also, it took me like 15 mins to explain that they are center mounted and that I wanted one mounted the other way. I should have know to leave at the point.
 
define very clear, like did you just say i want it HERE, or did you actually mark it yourself and show them the line that you wanted them mounted at. what i have done is made a mark, told them where i wanted it, described the method used to find the mark so they could double check that my mark is where their mark is, and then given the tech my cell # in case of any issues that may arise, and its a good thing i gave the tech my number for my last mount, since he did call me and ask for clarification about where the mount was supposed to be.
 
just ask if you can be there when they mount your skis, thats what i did. the guy almost mounted my disorderlys backwards (wouldn't have mattered, but still really dumb) but i stopped him.
 
oh Scott... it is time to draw your own line my friend.
and by clear he meant saying "I want it cm forward of boot center, so 2 back from true center... 3 in front of the line, 2 behind the center line, forward 3, backward 2, 3 +2, 2+3... good luck"
haha.. I am just playing, kind of...
Lesson of the story is, DRAW A LINE WHERE YOU WANT THEM TO MOUNT IT! and measure from the tip and tail to make sure the lines that they put on the graphics are in the same spot as one another... line, rossignol, and others are horrible at this.
 
Bahahhaah

The shop I went to mounted my Jesters for free, and I went back to where they mount bindings, figured out a line for my Donner Party's and he mounted them right there, in front of like 50 other pairs that needed to be mounted. way sick, perfect everytime.....other than when my mom brings my skis over there and a stupid ass tech does it.
 
to all you guys who said draw a line, theres no other place to mount invaders besides center. it would be foolish to mount a symmetrical ski back or forward. they should have been mounted at recommended but the tech had no idea what he was doing. i feel bad for you man, that sucks a lot. i would get them to get you new skis. i saw a kid last year with invaders that were mounted like 6 inches back from center. the heel pieces were mounted like right in front of the butterzone. idk how the screws didnt go through the ski
 
^probly the mini invader, they arent mounted center.
to the thread...dude they fucked up big time.
demand a remount at center(at no charge to you), possibly a refund of the money paid for the first fuck up, or a new pair of skis.
i would go with a new remount and a refund.
1 cm is acceptable space between old holes and new holes so i would go for it.
this ski is designed around the fact that its SUPPOSED to be center mounted, of course it will still work, but not as well or how it was designed to...and if u have been on them a few years then you know what to, and what not to, expect out of them.
 
exactly. if its the invader mini's well then they're mounted right because they aren't supposed to be center mounted because they arent symetrical, and you shuold only mount the green side forward (on last years that is).

if the shop mounted adult invaders 1cm back from center well then id deff push for a refund because yes, they are meant to be center mounted, its where the factory's line is, theres only one factory line, and theres no reason you should ever mount them back
 
What I wanna know is how in the hell they fucked that up! The ONLY marking on those skis is the center midpoint line....I seriously think it would have been harder to mess that up than to get it right lmao!

Ya get them to give you new skis man
 
The line on Invaders was 0.5cm back on centre in the past. Could be the same now which is why the bindings don't look dead centre.
 
id say definately go for new skis, if you remount them at center than thats gonna be 3 sets of wholes for the toe piece. takes away from the ski. they fucked up big time, you should definately be able to get a new pair. and i always put a big white-out line where i want my skis mounted and put a piece of masking tape over the recomended line and write "MOUNT AT WHITE-OUT LINE". just to make sure, the techs at my shop are super legit tho.
 
Another part of the problem is I put 4frnt bindings on them and no one knows how to mount them. I think I'm going to just leave it, it's probably not too bad and I'm guessing the mark line put on there is a little off. I posted more to see if anyone had this happen to their invaders and if it affected them a lot. Thanks for the imput.
 
To be completly honest...you probably wont even notice it...

...If you want to be known as "that customer" from now on, go back and bitch, but otherwise, ski them and just let the shop know what happened next time you are in. They might offer you a deal on something else or at least they will remember you were cool about it. Shops hate people who get super uppity about skiing all the time.
 
regardless of wether or not he will notice it, the shop fucked up mounting his toe peice once, and didnt mount them where he asked. its not like he asked for +3 from core center or something more complicated or vauge, he asked for recommended.... it shouldnt be hard to mount something at recommended.. and if he ever wanted to remount to accomodate a bigger boot, he would have 3 sets of toepeice holes on one ski. i would for sure complain about what happened to his skis, they fucked up bad.....
 
Oh I agree, I don't want to be "that customer" just wanted to hear if anyone had this happen and how it affected their invaders.
 
hey how did you tell they were a cm off? did you measure from the 'center mark' placed on the ski to the back of the toe piece and front of the heel? i want to check mine
 
look at the bottom of your boot, theres a midsole mark on it, click your boot in and see if the midsole mark lines up with the center mark
 
I checked the center mounting line on the ski and the line on my boot after I clicked them in my bindings and found that the boot line was back from the center line.
 
Would you get off my case dude, Seriously. I showed you where to get inserts in the other thread. Go bother yourself in hacking apart your new skis.

The shop didnt charge him for the mount. Any shop that agrees to give the kid free skis is seriously rolling over just to get the customer out the door and to get them to shut up. If we fuck up, we have already lost your business in the future...if we give you free skis, its our way of saying "Dont Come Back."

If you ymake a big stink, you will never get another deal in the shop again. We remember customers, and the laid back chill ones get the deals. The bitches get told the price and if they dont like it, walk.

Like I said, ski them for a day and feel them out. If you notice it, then bring them back and let the shop know, see what they will do. If you dont notice it, then booya, you got a free mount and your Invaders are a tad more all mountain friendly.

 
wow someones not trying to make it all about theml...... ive already posted in this thread.... but whatever, the fact still stands, that your skis have a limited number of mounts before the durability of the skis is very compromised, i believe the general consensus is 3? now he has one ski that has an extra set of toe holes because they fucked up mounting a toe peice, and they mounted them in the wrong place, when there wasnt even any question as to where the mount should be.... thats two fuckups for one pair of skis, and that is unacceptable, the tech is being paid to mount peoples skis PROPERLY without screwing up, that is his job... now yes everyone makes mistakes, and everyone is entitled to make mistakes from time to time, and techs obviously are given even more leniency when someone asks for some specific mount other than recommended, or a pre-marked mounting point. but when theres a single clear mark and the tech "misses" twice........
 
Read what I said...we are saying the same thing. You are just saying to go in and start bitching, and I am saying to see if it matters then do something about it.

You are the customer we would just give free skis to and kick out the door.
 
well yeah if you dont mind having an extra set of holes on one of your skis and you like the way it rides then yeah dont bother.
 
well its the same thing when all of us center mount a ski with a progressive sidecut..... its not right, but you will still be able to ski it.
 
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lol at the guy who misses that....
 
I don't doubt you guys run a legit friendly shop so i'm not attacking you man.
I agree with you, you need to be friendly and not "bitch" but your shops got it ass backwards.........
if you fuck up you HAVE NOT already lost my buisness. How you handle it determines if you have my buisness and further more how you handle it determines if I'll reccomend all my friends to hit up your place
When it comes to mounting. If it is not the customers fault, i.e missing the only mount point on the ski or if you drew your own line that says mount here and not here, I would be dissapointed if the shop didn't take full responsibilty.
Is it the customer's fault that the ski's integrity has been compromised? Is a free 5 minutes work really compensation for a weakened pair of skis you probably just dropped $200+ on? Is it the customers fault the skis are not in the same condition they were dropped off in? No one drops off a pair of ski's and says hey can you mount these and while you're at it drill 16 extra holes in them? Mistakes happen I totally understand that. But in the end, it is the shop's fault. The legit shops will take full responsiblity and correct the situation when they fall short. Unfortunately not all shops have the same moral integrity and won't always step up and admit when they're wrong.
Now I agree that bitchy customers can be annoying and first of all the customer should be friendly. But a customer shouldn't have to test it out when a shop falls very short of an average job. (i.e 2 miss mounts on one pair of skis) A shop should make the effort without being prompted by the customer. It is only fair the shop says hey we fucked up. Here's a new pair for you, we want return your product in the same condition you gave it to us.
Now I know it I seem like i'm ranting but i have dealt with shops on both sides of the spectrum. I can tell you when a shop show's me special attention and respect with a gesture like replacing the skis that they ruined I will not take it as a sign to "get the fuck out." They couldn't have been more sorry and they certainly weren't "rolling over to get me out the door." In fact, I've gone back to them time and time again and they're appreciative. I have to force them to let me pay for stupid stuff like tunes and mounts now! but maybe thats their way of saying don't come back?
Now, most of that is because i was friendly but the right action and the moral responsibilties of the shop do not change because of how friendly a customer is. And a shop should always strive to do what is right regardless. Unfortunately this isn'y always true and shops often treat customers differently and sometimes good people get fucked over.....
no hate to you specifically or in particular i'm just saying...... and I don't doubt you guys run a friendly shop so word up
sorry for the rant...........
 
what i was trying to say, only so so much better. after reading that, and then what i wrote, mine sounded like i was telling him to bitch at the shop and be a big douche. i would like to now point out that i was not trying to tell anyone that they should bitch out their shop to get their shit replaced when/if this happens (hopefully it never does), but you can get the point across that you want your skis replaced without sounding bitchy or being a big douche. sorry if my responses made it sound like you should be a douche..
 
I agree with what the others have said up above, including the kid that I argued with. I just dont like the "you owe me XXXXXX" attitude people take. I will hook you up if I can.

Example: Some kid bought some 171 suspects and STH14's yesterday. I mounted them for him and he went home. he called today and said there was a bubble on the tip of the ski and asked if he could bring it in. He does and I look at it. To be honest, it looked like the ski fell over and it hit the ground, denting the edge and pushing out the base. But, it may have been in the factory, or in shipping. I took his bindings off, no questions asked, and mounted a new pair. And its all pretty much because he came in, was chill while buying, DIDNT GOUGE for a better price (which I hate, you dont haggle for a loaf of bread in the super market...but that is for another thread) and when he needed a hand he was cool and didnt come in the shop all like "Yo, skis fucked, get me another".
 
go back to the shop tell them that the person mounting should of known that its symetrical ski and will nto ski to its potential and ask nicely that u should get new skis and remount becuase they just fucked up big time
 
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