I would have this to say about new salomon 1080's...since they started this foam core spaceframe deal..they are extremely light, they carve great, they feel great, but in MY opinion their durability sucks..I had a pair of the white vincent dorion 1080's..the tips delammed after about 9 days of normal park and all mountain, yes I used them for jumps..but they're made for this..so I got a new pair under warranty, 171 spaceframe models..this pair also delammed after about 10-15 days..again, nothing ridiculous..they just popped apart..so after pulling teeth with salomon forever, I got a pair of 181 spaceframes..this pair lasted maybe 8 days, before a huge section of edge underfoot (like a foot) ripped out after I did a very well covered glade run..now sure, maybe I hit a branch but what the hell..my scratchs have never done that and i beat the shit out of them, and the same with my new to me karmas, they seem quite durable..oh, and 2 other of my friends have had the edge problem with those spaceframe 1080's too..so I guess I'm just saying, unless your parents are paying for your skis..you might want to look at something thats a little more durable, and definitely watch second hand 1080's since you wont have a warranty then..