In a bit of a pickle... [vehicle advice]

Lé.Skiing

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so yah, i have it down to 2 cars about the same price, around $2,000

1- '90 VW-Jetta about 170,000km's on it(but the motor was rebuilt like 2 years ago so about 5,000km's are on the rebuilt engine) no rust, body in good condition, has a tape player, and radio. may need new tires next year, but everythign on it is all original, no rust... and its standard

2-Dodge neon '95 has a bit of a cracking problem with the paint, i think it has like 107,000km's on it i think theres nothign really been done too it, havent seen it yet not sure if its standard or automatic... well i looked at it yesterday, and its in good shape(minus the paint)

so yah, i may look more into it, but yah those are the two cars i have it down to... advice?
 
do NOT! get the Neon, both of my borhters had neons (93 and 2002) and they both died aftert 100,000 miles (the 93 had performance parts in it, the 2002 is stock) rusty and bad! get the jetta, way better deal.
 
i think you missed the part where i said that theres only like 5,000km's on the rebuilt engine, but like 170,000k on the whole car, but the engine is practically 2 years old
 
i would get the jetta, i was reading your first post and when i read neon i stopped reading because i knew the right answer, neons are peices of shit...
 
kilometers, not miles. 170k kilometers is around 100k miles.

My jetta had 340,000km on it and the odometer was broken when I got it. It lasted me over a year with no problems, just thanks to a very cold morning a gasked cracked near the oil filter and that was the end of her.
 
Look around more, there are deals to be had everyday. Dont rush into things, demand a test drive and if your not a mechanic, have a trusted mechanic check them out. Even though the Jetta has a fresh engine, 170,000km is alot of miles on the chassis, trans and electrical system. A trans can be costly, so can suspension work. Even though the Jetta is a better car and may be a better deal, consider what it costs to fix things, parts for VW's are many times more expensive than American cars and are harder to find. Get a carfax report if you can, they always help. Any more questions just ask. Good luck.

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so i got the jetta, check it:

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nice. what motor is in that? there are MOUNTAINS of aftermarket pars for old VWs, and they can be made to go rediculously fast. if you have some spare cash, those cars can be alot of fun.
 
good choice, that jetta will last you forever. my mom had an '89 jetta with over 400,000 kms on it and the only reason she got a new car is because that jetta was stolen. 400,000! your car will keep truckin, dont even worry.
 
Hahaha omg. Thats so ghetto. My buddies driving instructor had a 95(ish) cavalier with over 500,000 km on it. 2nd engine, 2nd tranny. Still running strong ! lmao
 
The Jetta's likely got a 1.8L 8v with Bosch Mototronic FI. I'm not familiar with the newer mkII Jettas but that's usually what they've got unless it's a GLX. Anyway, a chip for them is about $250 and it gives them a higher redline (6900rpm) and a smoother torque curve. Would be a worthy investment in one that's in good shape.

Aside from that, intake/exhaust, stiffer suspension, and lighter wheels are some more cheap mods for Jettas. When I'm done school, I'm going to pick up another Jetta for a project and see where I can go with it.
 
a new motor might bee good... depending on the body, your old one was in.. i remember the passenger door had to be locked in order for it to be closed properly.. i also remember the passenger door hurts when it slams on your fingers.. haha
 
i seen a chip on ebay that gives you about 20+HP for only about $11 cad(not including shipping) i think that'd be a worthy investment
 
i've been thinking on doing some shit to it, cause its a nice 2 door, and it can go like stink... today i was rallying it down a nice dirt road, it was fun... i'm thinking rims are the expencive part... that and a ggood stereo... and a paint job... well mostly everything i want to do to it, so first things first... skis
 
First things first...go through it with an independant mechanic, not the guy who sold you the car. Really find out if you have some big problems. You may say there is no rust, but on a car that old...there is gonna be some, and you need to know if it is going to matter.

Second, have him check the engine. Check all the fluids, the pressures, just to make sure everything is ok. If the mechanic says its all good then mod it.

But you have to ask your self this question.......if this is the car your gonna use in the winter, is modding it such a good thing. When you drive in the winter you put your car through huge amounts of salt, snow, ice, and cold temps. Lowered cars, with body kits, on big rims don't do soo great on the snow.
 
who said anythign about lowering it... i think most lowered cars look stupid.. and would be a huge inconvenience to me. the only thing i'd like to get is breaks, exaust, turbo(maybe), suspension, chip, and not bigger rims, but different rims.. maybe a paint job
 
Lowering it with stiffer suspension not only looks better but causes it to handle a lot better, too, considering you've got a lower center of gravity and less body roll. Of course, overdoing it would be lowriders, who do it for the look instead of any sort of performance gains.

And just so you know, these are some estimates as to what the work you want to do would cost you:

Brakes - I'm assuming you're just talking about getting new pads installed and new shoes on the rear, so you're not looking at a lot here. $50 - $200 depending on how you do it, I guess.

Exhaust - If you go buy a fart can, I will kill you. No joke. If you want performance gains, you'd want a catback exhaust, flow-through cat, headers, whatever, because that's actually going to help you (backpressure caused by a restrictive exhaust just creates pressure on the pistons so you lose some power, reducing backpressure = more power), a catback for a Jetta will cost you around $500 for a cheap one.

Turbo - There's a lot more work than you'd think that goes into a turbo. You're not going to be able to turbocharge the 1.8L engine without a whole lot of major engine work and fabrication. You'd save money and time going and getting a turbocharged engine from an older Audi and swapping that in with some fabrication.

Suspension - Stiffer and maybe an inch or two lower, you're looking at $200 for cheap stuff and progressively higher after that.

Chip - A real chip isn't going to cost $11 on eBay, just like that eBay chip isn't going to give you 20hp. A $250 chip will give you maybe 2hp, but will give you a smoother torque curve, higher redline, and in some cases you can get ones that let you use higher octane gas more efficiently which gives you some more power.

Rims - Can be cheap since you can go to a junkyard and get some off another car, clean them up, and roll. Luckily for money's sake, Jetta's have a 4x100 bolt pattern so finding rims is easy. But, for good rims, expect to spend at least $200 per rim. The best looking rims on Jettas are often made by BBS and you're looking at more like $500 per rim in that case.

Paint Job - $3,000. Like I said to you on MSN, my nextdoor neighbour works at Norm's and to get it done right they strip the paint down to the bare metal after removing all the trim, sand it smooth, fill any areas that need it, seal, prime a few times with wet sanding in betwee, then paint many coats with wet sanding in between coats and finally either clear coat or polish, reinstall all trim, and it's done. It's a LOT of work. If you were to paint yourself, just sand off a few layers of paint, maybe down to the primer, then spray on some new primer and wet sand and paint, wet sand in between coats, and then get an electric polisher to shine it up. You're going to need a paint gun and air compressor, too, unless you like uneven strokes caused by aerosol cans because they rely on being well shaked. Don't get me wrong, aerosol cans can do a good job when done well, my Jetta had a few spots that were rattle-canned, but to do it right so it lasts more than a year you need to do all the prep and spray well.
 
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