Illinois makes it illegal to videotape police... Kind of...

[Turd.Ferguson]

Ok so just recently Illinois has made a new amendment and from my understanding this law makes it a felony (I think it already is but may carry more time) to record certain public office holders (Judges, City Clerks, Police, Etc,.) private conversations without their consent.

This amendment includes the position of a Police officer, The rules are pretty malleable and nothing is really specified. The arrest of Eric Gardner (from my understanding) that was caught on videotape would be not considered a private conversation and would still be legal. There is not really an understanding of if getting pulled over and recording a cop is legal/illegal. This law is very vague but could turn some away from recording the police while they do their job to protect and serve US.

I think when people cry race in a killing of a person by a cop is complete bullshit and sometimes its not police brutality, but civillian stupidity. BUT, before I die I would like to retain a few freedoms besides breathing and drinking water.

Well I just read about this today and feel a little quick to click post but I'll give it a shot.

I hope this tread can also open up discussion on topics relating to this as well.

Links

(Non-Bias Link)

http://www.ibtimes.com/illinois-passes-bill-makes-it-illegal-record-police-1744724

(anti cop bias link)

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/illinois-felony-citizens-record-police-media-silent/

*couldn't find a pro police bias*

(the bill itself)

http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/98/SB/PDF/09800SB1342ham006.pdf

 

[Olimar]

I think it depends on the situation... I think that was sort of implied in the law/ammendment/what ever you posted as well.

 

[.frenchy]

I think cops should just have cameras on them at all times, and that's that... Then there won't be a need for all these kids chanting "fuk da poleec" to film cops 24/7

 

[soulskier]

I think cops should just have cameras on them at all times, and that's that... Then there won't be a need for all these kids chanting "fuk da poleec" to film cops 24/7

If this ever happens, I'm going to send you a video every time I take a dump

 

[.frenchy]

If this ever happens, I'm going to send you a video every time I take a dump

Well I just think cops should have cameras on them, not because of what they do... But of what people say they do, and they don't. There's been a few recent cases here in CT where dumbasses accuse cops of doing shit to them and then they go to court, figure out they had a camera o nth cop, and look like complete idiots.

 

[GayWolf420]

Nice. Because stopping people from filming on their iPhones is definitely going to fix the police brutality problem in our country.

 

[S.J.W]

I think cops should just have cameras on them at all times, and that's that... Then there won't be a need for all these kids chanting "fuk da poleec" to film cops 24/7

What's the point of a police officer having a video on them when they are filmed choking Eric Garner to death and still no punishment?

 

[SFB]

What's the point of a police officer having a video on them when they are filmed choking Eric Garner to death and still no punishment?

because he was fat

 

[.frenchy]

What's the point of a police officer having a video on them when they are filmed choking Eric Garner to death and still no punishment?

Because not everyone on the street cops interact with has 30+ arrests (some more serious ones) and gets caught breaking the law, and then resists arrest like a fucking baby. To top it all off all the business owners in the area said he was becoming a huge nuisance.

iiii..ii...iicaantt brreathhee

 

[erikK]

because he was fat

that question could not have been answered any better

 

[.Hugo.]

dont quote me on this, but recording audio of someone without consent is and has always been illegal. if youre just recording video its ok im pretty sure

 

[S.J.W]

Because not everyone on the street cops interact with has 30+ arrests (some more serious ones) and gets caught breaking the law, and then resists arrest like a fucking baby. To top it all off all the business owners in the area said he was becoming a huge nuisance.

iiii..ii...iicaantt brreathhee

I'm not condoning what Eric Garner did as a member of society, however if you look at the video, he hardly resists arrest. He's down on the ground with five officers on him, telling them he couldn't breathe and they still had him in a choke hold. He wasn't being restless and trying to get out of it or anything.

Additionally the only person who's been arrested in the case of Eric Garner was the person who filmed it.

Studies show that police are more likely to pull over and frisk blacks or Latinos than whites. In New York City, 80% of the stops made were blacks and Latinos, and 85% of those people were frisked, compared to a mere 8% of the white people stopped.

If you can't see the clear racism in the American Police Department then you're either ignorant or living life too easy in your white suburb.

 

[GrabsForFun]

That's sort of like the catholic church covering up the actions of pedofile priests and not stoping them. It's and incredibly indirekt way of facing the problem which the USA seems to face right now with police brutallity. But at the same time I think I understand why they did it. I have seen way to many videos of people geting stoped by police or what not, turning their camera on and then just try to be as uncooperative as posible.

 

[gotti]

Im sorry but for anyone to say that racial profiling by police is not an issue in america is completely ignorant. I don't even need to put down any of the colloquial facts. A black life is considered less valuable to police than a while life, period. Just read this (watch the documentary if you have netflix).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Park_jogger_case

the problem is cases like this happen all the time but go unreported because they likely live in a low income area and thus are subject to more abuse by police than necessary due to the intrinsically dangerous nature of "the hood" and yet kids who do nothing other than hang out with their friends are assumed to have "gang affiliations" and this is the kind of racial profiling that is a problem. If somebody points a weapon at you, shoot them. If somebody grabs your weapon, shoot them. But don't assume or fabricate lies about a person because they look like the last guy. The reason I am happy about the riots is as a wise man once said, "rioting is the necessary voice of the unheard." The riots simply let people know what is going on, and the three cases which have become famous in the last month and have garnered some questionable situations and some clear cut cases of police abuse are only a spoonful out of the pot filled with murders of innocent black men which never get reported. And, because the police and government sort of control the media, they twist their words into what will let them work another day. People must understand this. The news and opinions we read are FABRICATED. Not fake, but biased so much that they lead our brains into trusting and believing in only once side of the story. The riots are the first instance where we can hear and raise awareness on a national scale to the other side of the story. The side of the story which the people who do not ever actually SEE this abuse are finally hearing.