If u don't beleive in global warming

Ok. I'm a skier. I'm interested in Ecology, Biology and have extensively researched and had classes on our global environment and environmental health. I myself, as are the majority of scientists who study this stuff, are convinced that Global Warming is real. There is no other side. Its real, its happening, and we havent even started to feel the real effects.
 
Al gore also claimed HE invented the internet

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I just watched the entire The Global Warming swindle on youtube and it brings some pretty interesting facts (judge these for yourselves or watch the movie and make ur own opinion):

Co2 concentrations trail Temperature variations by Decades becaue the Ocean dissolves Co2 when it gets colder and lets it go when its hotter but these effects takes decades. So it gets hotter. the Co2 will only get released decades later

Co2 represents 0.54% of the air.

And water Vapor is a stronger green house gaz then Co2 is.

Although the movie brings up good arguments, i think everyone can agree that consuming can only be good. So wether you believe in global warming or don't, what bad can consuming less do?

 
^finally somebody watches the movie. before seeing it i was kinda in the middle. i thought there was global warming but still had my doubts, but the facts in this movie just make sense
 
there are so many scientists that believe global warming is false as well... this scientific theory (what it started as) has become so politicized thats its not even about global warming anymore... al gore has used global warming to keep his face in the media, because he's all pissed off he lost an election... and he knows he sucks...

the scientific facts of our atmosphere and solar system themselves, prove global warming is false... period... there isnt need for further dicussion... anyone that believes it is uneducated and trying way to hard to be a part of the "cool" liberal ideology...

al gore is one of the biggest hypocrites alive... he uses more electricity in his billion dollar estates, more gas in his SUVs and private jets, and uses more energy than almost anyone... yeah, he seems very concerned....

of course we should lower our emissions, and stop cutting down forests etc... im all for the environment... that stuff is common sense... even a dog doesnt take a shit where he sleeps...

what im saying is al gore is probably the most ignorant politician the world has ever known... and if u believe him, well it says a lot for you...

 
yes the scientific facts of our solar system... like clearly the earth is just getting closer to the sun or something... like duh, scientific atmosphmerey facts, sounds cool to me.

global warming didnt even exist before al gore made that crappy movie right.

ignorant politicians should stop trying to run the country... 4 more years!!!
 
there are so many scientists that believe global warming is false as

well... this scientific theory (what it started as) has become so

politicized thats its not even about global warming anymore... al gore

has used global warming to keep his face in the media, because he's all

pissed off he lost an election... and he knows he sucks...

Ok, first, where are you getting your information from? 75% of the worlds leading climatologist and ecologists agree that Humans are causing the phenomenon of global warming, and about 95% of all scientists, regardless of whether or not they think humans have anything to do with it, agree that its a phenomenon that is occurring.



the scientific facts of our atmosphere and solar system themselves,

prove global warming is false... period... there isnt need for further

dicussion... anyone that believes it is uneducated and trying way to

hard to be a part of the "cool" liberal ideology...

Again, I would love to see your scientific proof for this. And yeah, most everything about saving the environment is just a huge liberal scam. In fact, I hear liberals plan to restore earth back to its 'untainted' beauty so hippies can go live in grass shacks and smoke pot all day surrounded by nature.



al gore is one of the biggest hypocrites alive... he uses more

electricity in his billion dollar estates, more gas in his SUVs and

private jets, and uses more energy than almost anyone... yeah, he seems

very concerned....

Sure, I agree with you. Al Gore may use more energy than most of us, probably more than a dozen of us combined. But besides his uncharasmatic looks and speeches, he does have a good message, and is at least doing his best to spread the word of the problem. Sure, he could just live homeless and ditch his cars and plane, but its hard to meet with leaders in China and Europe on bike.





of course we should lower our emissions, and stop cutting down forests

etc... im all for the environment... that stuff is common sense... even

a dog doesnt take a shit where he sleeps...

what im saying is al gore is probably the most ignorant politician the

world has ever known... and if u believe him, well it says a lot for

you...


Just because he's a douche doesnt mean his message is bullshit. And as for ignorant politician, please look no further than our current administration, any one of them could re-defeat Gore at that race.
 
God dammit, another thing on this topic that pissed me off earlier this week.

Global warming has been turned into a political issue. It shouldnt be. Its become a idea which people have exploited for profit and wealth. Sure, Gore made money off the movie, but the original idea and purpose of it was to spread awareness of the issue. Many people now refuse to believe the phenomenon is occurring because they see it so attached to Gore, when it shouldnt. People steer away from wanting to believe it because they think theres a political agenda behind it.

Honestly, if you are one of these people, open your eyes. This issue is being exploited from all sides. The more people that disbelieve it gives politicians more time before they have to put pollution controls down, which no large industry wants. People that dont want to believe it, you're being played just as you were feared.

Its stupid that its a political issue. World issues problems facing humanity shouldnt be argued over or brought into political debate over its existence once they've been identified. Nobody stands to gain from us doing nothing about this problem in the long run, and that's why everyone should at least wake up and take notice of it.
 
^"Second of all, during the sequence of photographs of various glaciers and geographical areas, he doesn't label what season the pictures are taken in. In some of them, it is clear that the previous picture was taken during winter, and the current picture was taken during summer."

haha thats great. hahaha no need to explain how funny that is. weird i coulda swore this glacier was twice the size when i was here in the winter, "yeah man they melt in the summer."

 
Listen manbearpig if you believe a movie can convince erbody you are a fucking retard. Like a Scientologyst believing in E-Readers you believe anything that the media can throw at you. You an MF Joke
 
Instead of considering global warming to be one of earth's biggest problems, we should think about the larger problem of people regurgitating whatever they hear as truth. Whether it comes from a politician, a scientist, or your 9th grade teacher, it is ALL biased. Do yourself a favor, and before you hop on that soapbox, do a TON of research. I doubt anyone writing here (including myself) has done enough research to form an original argument. This thread is just a constant vomiting of "facts" that you can find on google. If global warming was straight up REAL or NOT REAL it wouldnt have so many people on each opposing side. Oh, and everything is political. You are ignorant to deny that.

If you are interested in the topic and want to learn a non-lazy and intelligent argument against global warming, I recommend Michael Chrichton's "State of Fear." (fictional book based on fact, all facts have footnotes and fully documented sources.) Even if you are totally convinced of global warming, read it anyways. Understand the argument.

In the meantime, everyone should be concerned with GENERAL human influence on our planet, and instead of being consumed by one campaign, do the best as an individual to preserve natural resources.
 
i think the axis tilt takes like 40,000 years. but weve gotten a big jump in 100 years... so yeah... i dont think its the axis tilt, if it flipped that quick we would all die
 
I'll start believing in global warming when I hear an argument that says something other than, "thats what Al Gore said"
 
Honestly i think the biggest problem is that global warming is becoming a political thing. i mean if the world is fucking melting the last thing i want is a couple of politicians that are just gonna sit around and talk about it. Regardless of whether or not you believe in global warming i think we can all agree that we shoulddo our part to conserve fuel. I mean no matter what the ammount of gas we are spewing into the atmosphere is bad whether its causing global warming or not im not sure. But we should still make an effort to conserve.

 
Also people keep saying "Al Gore is an idiot etc." sure you may not support his political views but he probalbly is speaking at least half truths. Sure he might blow things out of proportion but his reasearch had to come from somewhere. We're skiiers so if the earth is really heating up we are pretty much screwed, so why not at least make an effort. Its not like it can hurt.
 
global warming not only causes a gradual warming but also more random erratic weather as well
 
I hate you NS, for this thread alone.

one more joke of internet invention, manbearpig, or anything else unoriginal or copy-pasted from an anti-anything website, i'll shit on your lawn.

 
It pisses me off that everyone just brings up random pieces of info and calls it science, then says, i told ya so!

The fact is that it is undeniable that the world is fucked up, so why not do something about it?

Seriously, the fact that only a few government-payed scientists "agree" that global warming is false should tell us lazy people something.

Oh, and for all the Al Gore haters and fans, Global Warming doesn't give a shit what he thinks, it isn't even about him, at all.
 
cmon theres some seriously hilarious stuff in this thread... mostly the scientific debunking rants are funny.
 
i was a totall advocate for global warming and was into keeping the earth "clean" no matter how gay that sounds. but on the east coast right now it is absoltly dumping so if global warming means 50 inches in march and april BRING IT ON I LOVE THIS SHIT
 
But you're wrong because man made CO2 levels are actually up worldwide... the US has CO2 emissions lower than it did in the 1970s, as environmentalism hadn't quite caught on at that time. But your argument is still essentially "Because asbestos and carcinogens are down in the US recently, I dont think they're a problem." Even if atmospheric CO2 levels do start to level off (which they dont show any signs of doing), it would still cause bad shit to happen.
 
That movie sucks....he's bitter about not winning the presidential race and then talks about his son getting hit by a car or something and then goes on about how he lost the presidential race again and then some more about his family...lame movie..

 
Rowen speaks words of wisdom, listen up kiddies.

The only thin that annoys me with An Inconvenient Truth is when he brings up snow and ice melting in North America, stopping the "pump", causing an ice age in Europe, then asks a sharp rhetorical with "is there any other great body of ice melting near this pump?" and points to Greenland, saying that he'll get back to it...

He gets back to it, but not to the potential effects that he previously brought up... He mentions that it is melting extraordinarily rapidly, and so on and so forth, mentions how the water levels will rise worldwide, etc etc...

But what about the pump? His first argument is that the melting ice stopped the pump, causing an ice age overseas... Well, wouldn't it do that again, and sooner rather than later giving the warming?

Rowen, correct me if i'm wrong, i dunno what the status of the argument is, but aren't we having a sort of "microwave vs oven effect" on the world?

Al's graphs show a rise in temps, then our intervention with a huge rise. But wouldn't we simply be doing what nature takes a long time to do in a very short time? As in, nature would take a long time to melt Greenland ice, causing a new ice age and thus causing global cooling as ice reflects the sun light, and we are simply accelerating this process?

The movie makes huge conclusions without following what it had said in that part... I don't think we have any clue what will happen, we can assume it's bad, but seeing as we may be causing a new ice age, with a ton of pollution in the air, i don't think we can accurately predict what will happen next, only that it will happen faster than normal due to our influence...
 
Essentially, yes. What we're doing is accelerating natural global cycles, and in this we have a problem. Earth's cycles exist because they create feedback loops with each other. You see the same in the example of a small lake.

Small lake - has lots of creatures in it, from bacteria, to algae, to ducks, to fish, to otters. So, normally, these populations are stable, with a little fluctuation here and there. More algae means more smaller fish, which allows more larger fish, increasing the otters food supply and population. Now, algae will then start to decline as the predators increase, which will cause a ripple effect throughout the food chain, and populations will decrease. Cool. Natural cycles, right?

Now, a problem occurs when algae suddenly bloom. If the algae get nutrients and increase in population at a very high rate, they inundate the lake, and choke out any other life, creating anoxic conditions. Basically, by giving the cycle a sudden sharp shock, the natural 'checks and balances' in population control fail, and algae extinguish all other life, and eventually die themselves due to lack of nutrients.

Thats what scientists are frightened of. Never has our Earth seen such sudden and radical changes in its climate, and we could be setting ourselves up for a massive global disaster. The signs of this are already present and we're not going to feel the real effects for a few years, but by then, it might already be too late.
 
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