If Trump wins

[PacificRimJob]

Haha. I have a good buddy who's parents are from Lebanon. He was raised muslim, here in the states... He's now as devout of a Muslim as I am a Jew - which is fucking NOT. He doesn't eat Halal, I don't eat Kosher. We both love bacon.

He couldn't give a crap about the religion outside of the bullshit he has to deal with from shitheads who see him and his family, and assume he's ready to strap a bomb onto his chest.. Most muslims in the world, including within the "muslim world" share this notion.

I've said this before - Nobody wants to be a terrorist (other than the few whackjob Timothy McVeigh types who just want to instill chaos in the world in whatever way, dead or alive) the problem is that that part of the world has had it's growth stunted at every turn - whether by internal or external forces.

You have poor farmers who's land is destroyed in wars by western aggression to influence the nation you live in by the same bullshit notion that the domino theory was guided by...

They now have nothing left, and are thereby easily influenced by the loudmouth Donald Trumps and Ted Cruz's where they live - people who have power by having control of weapons and support of local religious leaders rather than money and corporate influence.

They turn to god in the same way someone on a 12 step program turns to god, and when their corrupt leaders influence them to bring death to the America that has brought pain to their lives, they do it... It's fucking simple as that... It has less to do with islam, and more to do with the situation at hand. Islam may be more likely to seed violence, but that's only because the writings in Islamic texts can be that much more easily used to incite violence than that found in the Torah or Bible - of which both have plenty of violence inciting text...

The majority of these terrorists aren't like those characters in 4 Lions... they're from a background and influence we couldn't even fathom here in the states.

 

[Campeador]

ahhh yes the classic muslims don't integrate. That's just plain wrong. If you want to combat dangerous middle eastern Islam then you should allow them to immigrate, realize how great the west is then they forgo their dangerous ideology.

https://dash.harvard.edu/bitstream/handle/1/4481625/Norris_MuslimIntegration.pdf?sequence=1

Bullshit.
http://www.politico.eu/article/brus...urope-muslims-brussels-attacks-airport-metro/

They're becoming more radical in the West, not less. 2nd generation Muslims are more radical than their parents.
http://www.cfr.org/religion/europes-angry-muslims/p8218

 

[Campeador]

Haha. I have a good buddy who's parents are from Lebanon. He was raised muslim, here in the states... He's now as devout of a Muslim as I am a Jew - which is fucking NOT. He doesn't eat Halal, I don't eat Kosher. We both love bacon.

He couldn't give a crap about the religion outside of the bullshit he has to deal with from shitheads who see him and his family, and assume he's ready to strap a bomb onto his chest.. Most muslims in the world, including within the "muslim world" share this notion.

More bullshit.

Most Muslims (53%) want Sharia, but feel free to post another cute video from Reza Aslan if you like. Or another story about your friend who somehow represents "most muslims in the world". For the record, folks like your friend are great, but if we're going to talk about tiny minorities, your friend is part of one.

Now care tell about the specifics of Sharia? You're clueless.

To say that most Muslims in the world "couldn't give a crap about the religion" is just such an unbelievable lie, you regressive leftists are so well-conditioned to immediately jump to the defense of Islam.

 

[Campeador]

The majority of these terrorists aren't like those characters in 4 Lions... they're from a background and influence we couldn't even fathom here in the states.

You mean like the ones from Paris and Brussels?

Dreadful,

Christ, do you even believe the bleeding-heart nonsense you write? Or do you have no shame at all?

 

[S.J.W]

Bullshit.
http://www.politico.eu/article/brus...urope-muslims-brussels-attacks-airport-metro/

They're becoming more radical in the West, not less. 2nd generation Muslims are more radical than their parents.
http://www.cfr.org/religion/europes-angry-muslims/p8218

Did you even read the study I posted??? Probably not, if you actually read it, you would see that muslims coming from the east that migrate to the west pretty much ignore all the fucked up shit in Islam. And align themselves with christian

 

[Campeador]

Did you even read the study I posted??? Probably not, if you actually read it, you would see that muslims coming from the east that migrate to the west pretty much ignore all the fucked up shit in Islam. And align themselves with christian

Have you even read your own cited study? What specific parts did you find most compelling?

Now Muslims align themselves with Christianity? That's a new one. Maybe they should convert?

 

[Campeador]

Trump 2016

Sharia sympathizing leftists, feel free to vote for the old hag.

 

[S.J.W]

Have you even read your own cited study? What specific parts did you find most compelling?

Now Muslims align themselves with Christianity? That's a new one. Maybe they should convert?

okay I was at uni at I was rushed. What I meant is that muslims with regards to democracy, sexual liberation, etc,etc are pretty much the same as christians. Still not as good as athiests, but it's still better than the fucked up views the middle east has

 

[razors-chaz]

More bullshit.

Most Muslims (53%) want Sharia, but feel free to post another cute video from Reza Aslan if you like. Or another story about your friend who somehow represents "most muslims in the world". For the record, folks like your friend are great, but if we're going to talk about tiny minorities, your friend is part of one.

Now care tell about the specifics of Sharia? You're clueless.

To say that most Muslims in the world "couldn't give a crap about the religion" is just such an unbelievable lie, you regressive leftists are so well-conditioned to immediately jump to the defense of Islam.

you quoted the wrong table to attempt to counter the point.

from your own source. this shows most of the muslims of the world dont support extremism in the name of islam.

As for Sharia the interpretation of the law is widely debated and there are wide differences in how muslims adhere to these laws. There are 5 main different schools of thought toward sharia and each has differing levels of authority. Also in the context of the extreme punishments, by no means all, and in most regions, muslims do not favour the corporal punishments. Also the majority of regions believe the laws should only apply to muslims and even more so U.S. muslims so the likelyhood of the USA falling under sharia is much less of a threat than you would have us believe.

All information from your own source.http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/

You've cherry picked a table to suit your own xenophobic demagoguery.

 

[onenerdykid]

you quoted the wrong table to attempt to counter the point.

from your own source. this shows most of the muslims of the world dont support extremism in the name of islam.

But the problem with this chart is that is lumps "rarely" and "never justified" together in the same category. There is a huge moral distinction between "rarely" justifying suicide bombing and "never" justifying suicide bombing. From this chart, we have no idea if the majority of those people say that suicide bombing is rarely justified or not. It could very well be that 90% of a certain Muslim population saying that the purposeful and direct killing of innocent life "rarely" justified.

Even if we just look that the "often/sometimes" category only, this chart should be quite alarming to people. 15% of the Muslims in Turkey say that suicide bombing is often/sometimes justified. FYI- Turkey has about 79 million people with 99.8% registered as Muslim. 15% is equivalent to almost 12 million people, from Turkey alone, and that's fucking scary.

 

[J.D.]

you quoted the wrong table to attempt to counter the point.

from your own source. this shows most of the muslims of the world dont support extremism in the name of islam.

As for Sharia the interpretation of the law is widely debated and there are wide differences in how muslims adhere to these laws. There are 5 main different schools of thought toward sharia and each has differing levels of authority. Also in the context of the extreme punishments, by no means all, and in most regions, muslims do not favour the corporal punishments. Also the majority of regions believe the laws should only apply to muslims and even more so U.S. muslims so the likelyhood of the USA falling under sharia is much less of a threat than you would have us believe.

All information from your own source.http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/

You've cherry picked a table to suit your own xenophobic demagoguery.

First, you get that you're defending Sharia here, right? Like you're actually doing it. This is theocracy. No one should be in favour of theocracy, regardless of "differing levels of authority". This demonstrates how fully some people seem to have lost the plot here. There is no version of sharia that is acceptable as an aspect of a political system.

Second, the statement, "in most regions, muslims do not favour the corporal punishments" is clearly wrong. In the regions polled with the largest Muslim populations, the majority ARE in favour of cutting off peoples' hands for theft or stoning them for adultery. In Pakistan, for example, where 178 million Muslims live, 88% are in favour of this. Even in countries where a majority DON'T support it, the number of people who do is staggering. There are about 200 million muslims in Indonesia, and 46% of those polled say they support these barbaric practices. That's a huge number of people. Even in central Asia and Europe, where the percentages are the lowest, it's still about a third of the Muslim population who think this stuff is a good idea.

The last thing I want to point out is your statement that "the majority of regions believe the laws should only apply to Muslims and even more so U.S. Muslims so the likelihood of the USA falling under sharia is much less of a threat than you would have us believe." First, there are 1.6 billion Muslims in the world. Even if the VAST majority think these rules shouldn't apply to non-Muslims, we're still talking about tens of millions, or hundreds of millions, of people who DO want these practices to apply to everyone. This should be obvious based on the way even the most moderate Muslims insist that no one, Muslim or not, draw a picture or cartoon of the Prophet. This is an instance of attempting to enforce religious laws about blasphemy on people who do not subscribe to the religion. That should tell you something in and of itself.

More importantly, do you only give a fuck about horrifying barbaric practices if they manifest themselves in the United States? Women, gays, atheists, minority religious practitioners in these societies live under oppression that makes Apartheid look like a weekend picnic in your local park, but your response is, don't worry, it won't happen in the US? "No worries, Afrikaaner national party, as long as you all keep to yourselves, we're not much fussed". Fuck right off.

Stop trying to downplay this. These are horrifying belief systems that any person with any sense of human rights should be strongly opposed to.

 

[Campeador]

As for Sharia the interpretation of the law is widely debated and there are wide differences in how muslims adhere to these laws. There are 5 main different schools of thought toward sharia and each has differing levels of authority. Also in the context of the extreme punishments, by no means all, and in most regions, muslims do not favour the corporal punishments. Also the majority of regions believe the laws should only apply to muslims and even more so U.S. muslims so the likelyhood of the USA falling under sharia is much less of a threat than you would have us believe.

All information from your own source.http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/

You've cherry picked a table to suit your own xenophobic demagoguery.

Smoke and mirrors, you're amateur understanding of Sharia is based off of a Google search you executed just before you posted.

Care to explain the differences between the "five schools of Sharia"?

 

[Campeador]

Delicate college students now crying over pro-Trump street chalk on campus.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/02/u...cause-conflicts-on-college-campuses.html?_r=0