Travapple.
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yeah, that is called hindsight relativity, we talked about it in school today................ its pretty interesting
If this is true then am I proving Einstein wrong?
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uni-corn
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If anyone wants too know why this is all wrong then read this...
The reason you can not go faster than the speed of light is this
When you go faster and faster the energy required to go faster increases... there fore you can think about the energy requirements as this... 1/x^2 where there is an asymptote at 0. Where the X axis is the speed and the Y axis is the energy requirements. So the amount of energy required to go the speed of light is infinite. Hense why we can not go faster than the speed of light.
Though the energy requirement is directly proportional to your mass. Lower mass less energy. This is the reason a photon can go the speed of light (it is mass-less).
So therefore your entire argument is wrong because you assume that something can go faster than the speed of light.
The reason you can not go faster than the speed of light is this
When you go faster and faster the energy required to go faster increases... there fore you can think about the energy requirements as this... 1/x^2 where there is an asymptote at 0. Where the X axis is the speed and the Y axis is the energy requirements. So the amount of energy required to go the speed of light is infinite. Hense why we can not go faster than the speed of light.
Though the energy requirement is directly proportional to your mass. Lower mass less energy. This is the reason a photon can go the speed of light (it is mass-less).
So therefore your entire argument is wrong because you assume that something can go faster than the speed of light.
uni-corn
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Another point I must make is this
Think about time and space as one whole. For example when you are not moving you are 100% moving through time and 0% moving through space. But when you start to move the %'s change and there for you start to move slower though time. Where 100% through space is going the speed of light and 100% through time is not moving. So when the % is at 50% time 50% space you are moving slower through time. (this is just an example, the math is no doubt wrong) if you were to move at 50% the speed of light for one year you would have actually went 1 year into the future. Where one year passed for you and 2 years passed for everyone else. (this example i am going to say actually happened) A particle that breaks up almost instantaneously on creation when accelerated to 99% the speed of light lasted for about 1hr. From the view of the particle it did break up instantly but to the view of the scientist it lasted about an 1hr (im not sure how long it actually was so don't quote the 1hr).
To sum this up the faster you go the slower you go through time.
Think about time and space as one whole. For example when you are not moving you are 100% moving through time and 0% moving through space. But when you start to move the %'s change and there for you start to move slower though time. Where 100% through space is going the speed of light and 100% through time is not moving. So when the % is at 50% time 50% space you are moving slower through time. (this is just an example, the math is no doubt wrong) if you were to move at 50% the speed of light for one year you would have actually went 1 year into the future. Where one year passed for you and 2 years passed for everyone else. (this example i am going to say actually happened) A particle that breaks up almost instantaneously on creation when accelerated to 99% the speed of light lasted for about 1hr. From the view of the particle it did break up instantly but to the view of the scientist it lasted about an 1hr (im not sure how long it actually was so don't quote the 1hr).
To sum this up the faster you go the slower you go through time.
cmeriptahoe
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einsteins theory only applies to relatively low speeds compared to the speed of light.
almostaskier
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8 minutes, but yeah.
To the thread starter: don't give yourself so much credit in the future.
To the thread starter: don't give yourself so much credit in the future.
BobYohan
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i dont have time to read all the responses, so this has probably been said. your hypothetical example is impossible, nothing with mass can ever travel at the speed of light much less faster than it. only photons may travel at light speed because they are massless. accelerating a particle with any mass at all to lightspeed would take an infinite amount of energy. not just a lot, or all the energy in the universe, but an impossibly infinite amount.
flippintricker
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nah, other stuff can travel at the speed of light. there are more massless particles out there than photons
flippintricker
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well, everything technically has to agree. so, from the observers point of view, it lasted much longer than it should have due to time dilation, and so it traveled a much larger distance. from the particles point of view, the lab shrunk due to length contraction effects, so it traveled a much larger distance.
