Ideas Anyone? wanna help out on a sociology paper (Wage gaps from a marxist point of view)?

losh

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Any ideas? Jumping off points? I have a few ideas, but I'm kinda stuck in a rut at the moment. I figured threes some college kids on here that might have written similar papers. Anyone wanna help a guy out? The premise of the paper is basically how would Marx describe/analyze the Wage gap in America? Or any social phenomena for that manner, I just figured Wage gap would work well for this paper.
 
There are no wage gaps. Women just like to complain. More often than not, men get paid less than women in the same job.

Lemme give you a quick history lesson. The year is 1914, the start of WWI. Many men from the age of 18 and older and being drafted into the war. Some say that WWI ended in 1918 and that WWII started in 1939. If you ask me and many other scholars, WWI never ended. The tensions were always high between 1918 and 1939. Conflict was still happening throughout the world. The battles during this time were fought by the men of age 18 and older that I previously mentioned. With all the men gone, someone had to work the jobs that the men held, work in the factories, etc. This is when women started to become independent. The men who died was not Americas greatest lost, for our greatest lost was the birth of the independent woman. She realized that she could work the same jobs they could and take care of the kids.

Once this happened, women started saying things like "no" or "I don't want to". Men were baffled into a deep state of confusion when they came home from battle. This is when WWIII started. It is still continuing today, and women are making their battle advancements by saying they aren't getting paid as much, which is false.

I hope I helped, if you don't believe me, search this stuff up. The wage gap just doesn't really exist for 90% or more of the work force.

**This post was edited on Nov 7th 2017 at 8:22:45pm
 
13853166:.lencon said:
There are no wage gaps. Women just like to complain. More often than not, men get paid less than women in the same job.

Lemme give you a quick history lesson. The year is 1914, the start of WWI. Many men from the age of 18 and older and being drafted into the war. Some say that WWI ended in 1918 and that WWII started in 1939. If you ask me and many other scholars, WWI never ended. The tensions were always high between 1918 and 1939. Conflict was still happening throughout the world. The battles during this time were fought by the men of age 18 and older that I previously mentioned. With all the men gone, someone had to work the jobs that the men held, work in the factories, etc. This is when women started to become independent. The men who died was not Americas greatest lost, for our greatest lost was the birth of the independent woman. She realized that she could work the same jobs they could and take care of the kids.

Once this happened, women started saying things like "no" or "I don't want to". Men were baffled into a deep state of confusion when they came home from battle. This is when WWIII started. It is still continuing today, and women are making their battle advancements by saying they aren't getting paid as much, which is false.

I hope I helped, if you don't believe me, search this stuff up. The wage gap just doesn't really exist for 90% or more of the work force.

**This post was edited on Nov 7th 2017 at 8:22:45pm

Besides the fact that the whole first part is complete bullshit, he isn't wrong in saying that the wage gap is very minuscule, if not, just straight up non-existent. The statistic that started all of this (women only make 77 cents to the $) didn't take into consideration how differently men and women make decision. Women dominate lower paying fields that require college education while men tend to go to college for STEM careers.
 
It would be way more spooky (and risky) to do a paper on the disadvantage of being a white male in the workplace, not this wage gap heard it before bs. I have a very shallow understanding, but a few profs I have talked with have mentioned how their contacts in businesses prefer to hire women and black men, some of which, are much more unqualified than other candidites.

Thats some shit Id read
 
13853186:iced said:
It would be way more spooky (and risky) to do a paper on the disadvantage of being a white male in the workplace, not this wage gap heard it before bs. I have a very shallow understanding, but a few profs I have talked with have mentioned how their contacts in businesses prefer to hire women and black men, some of which, are much more unqualified than other candidites.

Thats some shit Id read

I honestly didn't really want to write about the wage gap all that much, but i figured it would be pretty easy and appeal my hella liberal professor who loves to talk about it. But the disadvantage of being a white male in the workplace would actually be a sick paper, but I'm not entirely sure what direction I could go with it.
 
13853191:jlens05 said:
I honestly didn't really want to write about the wage gap all that much, but i figured it would be pretty easy and appeal my hella liberal professor who loves to talk about it. But the disadvantage of being a white male in the workplace would actually be a sick paper, but I'm not entirely sure what direction I could go with it.

Smooch yo professor.
 
13853191:jlens05 said:
I honestly didn't really want to write about the wage gap all that much, but i figured it would be pretty easy and appeal my hella liberal professor who loves to talk about it. But the disadvantage of being a white male in the workplace would actually be a sick paper, but I'm not entirely sure what direction I could go with it.

Hell, just try being a white middle-class male and getting into an elite university. If you're not the first generation in your family to go to university, gay/bi/whateverthefuck, and you didn't go to a big-name prep school...good luck. Being a white middle-class male is increasingly a disadvantage in many aspects of today's America.
 
13853191:jlens05 said:
I honestly didn't really want to write about the wage gap all that much, but i figured it would be pretty easy and appeal my hella liberal professor who loves to talk about it. But the disadvantage of being a white male in the workplace would actually be a sick paper, but I'm not entirely sure what direction I could go with it.

Personally, I would only do it if I knew my profs well enough that they wouldnt drop a feminist brick on me...

If you get to pick your paper topic (i forget what your course is), a cool thing would be the use of windmills in ontario. I recently did a short paper on it. Basically, check the engineers society of ontario. they use big words but the core message is the way the windmills are currently used here, they are emitting more pollution than fossil fuels (this is because wind is not dependable, and fossil fuels need to be turned on and off when there is a shortage, and when they start up they emit high levels of dirty shit). idk its been a year but good luck

edit: im out right right now but i think i mean to say write about how it has been represented to society and promoted, where this other info has been overlookde

**This post was edited on Nov 7th 2017 at 10:10:53pm
 
It's a paper for sociology about a social phenomenon, so it would be kind of tough to work that in. I guess if I wanted to I could write about how people view "sustainable" or "clean" energy sources. But it'd have to be from a marxist POV. I think I might end up writing about the Marxist POV of violent crime in the U.S
 
13853204:iFlip said:
Hell, just try being a white middle-class male and getting into an elite university. If you're not the first generation in your family to go to university, gay/bi/whateverthefuck, and you didn't go to a big-name prep school...good luck. Being a white middle-class male is increasingly a disadvantage in many aspects of today's America.

I was the first person in my family to go to a university and that did not help one bit.. for scholarships at least. I didn't really apply to any "elite" universities. I have many advantages as a white adolescent middle-class male. I also have a lot of disadvantages.

If I could prove there was just a trace of Native American in me, but still be as white as I am, I could go to school for at least half the cost of what I am paying right now. I have a buddy who is Italian, but has a trace of Native American in him and I think he gets around $6k a year for school if I remember correctly.
 
13853204:iFlip said:
Hell, just try being a white middle-class male and getting into an elite university. If you're not the first generation in your family to go to university, gay/bi/whateverthefuck, and you didn't go to a big-name prep school...good luck. Being a white middle-class male is increasingly a disadvantage in many aspects of today's America.

#it'soktobewhite
 
13853181:JeremyBednar said:
Besides the fact that the whole first part is complete bullshit, he isn't wrong in saying that the wage gap is very minuscule, if not, just straight up non-existent. The statistic that started all of this (women only make 77 cents to the $) didn't take into consideration how differently men and women make decision. Women dominate lower paying fields that require college education while men tend to go to college for STEM careers.

As an example, my mom has a degree in journalism, never used for anything good and my dad has a degree in biology and he makes good money
 
13853166:.lencon said:
There are no wage gaps. Women just like to complain. More often than not, men get paid less than women in the same job.

Lemme give you a quick history lesson. The year is 1914, the start of WWI. Many men from the age of 18 and older and being drafted into the war. Some say that WWI ended in 1918 and that WWII started in 1939. If you ask me and many other scholars, WWI never ended. The tensions were always high between 1918 and 1939. Conflict was still happening throughout the world. The battles during this time were fought by the men of age 18 and older that I previously mentioned. With all the men gone, someone had to work the jobs that the men held, work in the factories, etc. This is when women started to become independent. The men who died was not Americas greatest lost, for our greatest lost was the birth of the independent woman. She realized that she could work the same jobs they could and take care of the kids.

Once this happened, women started saying things like "no" or "I don't want to". Men were baffled into a deep state of confusion when they came home from battle. This is when WWIII started. It is still continuing today, and women are making their battle advancements by saying they aren't getting paid as much, which is false.

I hope I helped, if you don't believe me, search this stuff up. The wage gap just doesn't really exist for 90% or more of the work force.

**This post was edited on Nov 7th 2017 at 8:22:45pm

I'm really impressed at your ability to combine bullshit with subtle sexism
 
13853204:iFlip said:
Hell, just try being a white middle-class male and getting into an elite university. If you're not the first generation in your family to go to university, gay/bi/whateverthefuck, and you didn't go to a big-name prep school...good luck. Being a white middle-class male is increasingly a disadvantage in many aspects of today's America.

Yeah I have to agree on this. Affirmative action in university admissions is some bullshit. Admissions should be based on the students performance inside and outside the class as a whole, and the best student should be selected regardless of race. They shouldn't have to hit some quota to make them seem diverse.
 
13853191:jlens05 said:
I honestly didn't really want to write about the wage gap all that much, but i figured it would be pretty easy and appeal my hella liberal professor who loves to talk about it. But the disadvantage of being a white male in the workplace would actually be a sick paper, but I'm not entirely sure what direction I could go with it.

Cant wait to see this groundbreaking study on the struggles of white males. Finally someone is taking a stab at the issues that matter #maga
 
13853166:.lencon said:
There are no wage gaps. Women just like to complain. More often than not, men get paid less than women in the same job.

Lemme give you a quick history lesson. The year is 1914, the start of WWI. Many men from the age of 18 and older and being drafted into the war. Some say that WWI ended in 1918 and that WWII started in 1939. If you ask me and many other scholars, WWI never ended. The tensions were always high between 1918 and 1939. Conflict was still happening throughout the world. The battles during this time were fought by the men of age 18 and older that I previously mentioned. With all the men gone, someone had to work the jobs that the men held, work in the factories, etc. This is when women started to become independent. The men who died was not Americas greatest lost, for our greatest lost was the birth of the independent woman. She realized that she could work the same jobs they could and take care of the kids.

Once this happened, women started saying things like "no" or "I don't want to". Men were baffled into a deep state of confusion when they came home from battle. This is when WWIII started. It is still continuing today, and women are making their battle advancements by saying they aren't getting paid as much, which is false.

I hope I helped, if you don't believe me, search this stuff up. The wage gap just doesn't really exist for 90% or more of the work force.

**This post was edited on Nov 7th 2017 at 8:22:45pm

Starting a nonsensical alternative history post by saying "If you ask me and many other scholars" is ALL time.

I do agree that the wage gap is significantly smaller than how it is commonly represented. Again, many of those figures do not account for variances in job selection between genders.

As for the paper, why not write about these variables and how many of the modern wage gap figures are incorrect? Could be a great opportunity to show your professor some critical thinking skills (unless your prof is some sorta of hyper-feminist, which is certainly possible). When I was in undergrad I found that my history professors were especially fond of those types of historical hot takes, so long as you were meticulous in your research and back up your argument well. If you can find some prominent texts on the pay gap and pick apart the author's methods, research, and argument, almost as a lit review, you'd show your prof that you can think critically and view events from various perspectives, a phenomenal skill for the social sciences.
 
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