i knew that if i made a comment about film vs. digital, some camera gear-queer would start shit. do you want to enlighten me, or are you just trying to make sure people who don't own fancy cameras keep their opinions to themselves? i think most people agree that 16 mm film and high-resolution digital video look pretty different (e.g., Cory Vanular's film shots on that cornice in Shanghai 6 look a lot different than the high-res digital footage that makes up the rest of his part).  i don't think it's a huge step to suggest that the different looks give the shots a different feel. to me, 16mm film seems to have a softer focus and it makes a project look more like a ski *movie* instead of a ski *video.* also, bright colors seem like they glow more on film, perhaps because of the softer focus. i'm not claiming to know how pixels and grains differ, and how this produces different effects . . . but I can tell the difference between digital and film in ski movies, and i can't imagine those last shots in Idea having the same feel if they were captured in high-res digital. that's all i'm saying.