Ice-is-scary, eat my ass

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4467420.stm

greenhouse gases carbon dioxide and methane in the atmosphere are higher now than at any time in the last 650,000 years.

That is the conclusion of new European studies looking at ice taken from 3km below the surface of Antarctica.

The scientists say their research shows present day warming to be exceptional.

Other research, also published in the journal Science, suggests that sea levels may be rising twice as fast now as in previous centuries.

Treasure dome

The evidence on atmospheric concentrations comes from an Antarctic region called Dome Concordia (Dome C).

Ice core. Image: J. Schwander/University of Bern

Epica drills have extracted ice from 3km under the Antarctic surface

Over a five year period commencing in 1999, scientists working with the European Project for Ice Coring in Antarctica (Epica) have drilled 3,270m into the Dome C ice, which equates to drilling nearly 900,000 years back in time.

Gas bubbles trapped as the ice formed yield important evidence of the mixture of gases present in the atmosphere at that time, and of temperature.

"One of the most important things is we can put current levels of carbon dioxide and methane into a long-term context," said project leader Thomas Stocker from the University of Bern, Switzerland.

"We find that CO2 is about 30% higher than at any time, and methane 130% higher than at any time; and the rates of increase are absolutely exceptional: for CO2, 200 times faster than at any time in the last 650,000 years."

Stable relationship

Last year, the Epica team released its first data. The latest two papers analyse gas composition and temperature dating back 650,000 years.

This extends the picture drawn by another Antarctic ice core taken near Lake Vostok which looked 440,000 years into the past.

The extra data is crucial because around 420,000 years there appears to have been a significant shift in the Earth's long-term climate patterns.

Before and after this date, the planet went through 100,000 year cycles of alternating cold glacial and warm interglacial periods.

Antarctic base. Image: A. Lori/ENEA

The base at Dome Concordia

But around the 420,000 year mark, the precise pattern changed, with the contrast between warm and cold conditions becoming much more marked.

The Dome C core gives data from six cycles of glaciation and warming; two from before this change, four from after.

"We found a very tight relationship between CO2 and temperature even before 420,000 years," said Professor Stocker.

"The fact that the relationship holds across the transition between climatic regimes is a very strong indication of the important role of CO2 in climate regulation."

Epica scientists will now try to extend their analysis further back in time.

Water rise

Another study reported in the same journal claims that for the last 150 years, sea levels have been rising twice as fast as in previous centuries.

Using data from tidal gauges and reviewing findings from many previous studies, US researchers have constructed a new sea level record covering the last 100 million years.

They calculate the present rate of rise at 2mm per year.

"The main thing that's changed since the 19th Century and the beginning of modern observation has been the widespread increase in fossil fuel use and more greenhouse gases," said Kenneth Miller from Rutgers University.

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the body which collates scientific evidence for policymakers, concludes that sea level rose by 1-2cm during the last century, and will rise by anything up to 88cm by the end of this century.
 
Way to make a new thread on this? Would u like a metal? Or an Award? For being the stupidest member on this site? Cause that could be arranged.
 
Yeah I suppose if you get your information from an enviromentally aimed source, they will only show the bad. Take a look at all the studies, some places the temperature is falling.
 
perhaps you are simply the most stubbornly ignorant, and even if you think global warming is exaggerated, still being too afraid to even consider new information.
 
I wasnt making fun of his info, i didnt even read it, the fact that he made a post telling Ice-is-scary to eat his ass is why hes a fucktard.
 
even then, cant be pussies about it, just mount razor blades on your skies when you come out east. youll do fine
 
How the fuck did they measure greenhouse gasses 650,000years ago? you have to wonder how accurate that statement is.............
 
if you put this much work into an internet argument you are a homo. you would like him to eat your ass. got damn some people have way too much time on their hands
 
you all are fucking dumb. the world works like a radio frequency. currently we are on the upslope of global warming after we finish that which you will probably all be dead the world will slope down to a negative function which global freezing will occur.

but hey, what do i know, im only in a university level environmental studies course.
 
I DON'T GET IT!!

the title is about ice-is-scary...yet, the THREAD is about global warming.

DOES NOT COMPUTE
 
ice is scary, i thought, was hte primary opponent of gloabl warming. i guess i was wrong. LONG LIVE THE SUBRUBAN! H3s are the shit! whooooo coal power plants!
 
You know, these smart people with glasses, they're called researches, right? They can test earth, rock, water and whatnot to discover how old it is, how much gasses it had back then etc. Or maybe they just winged it in hope for funding.
 
The AP reports that "Antarctic Ice May Vanish in 7,000 Years" Now scientists are trying to predict the climate 7000 years into the future, when they cannot even get this week's weather forecast right.

Guess what, the Earth will probably vanish in as little as 5 Billion years when our sun goes nova and swallows the planet. Oh no, what do we do? Ban SUVs?

Has anyone else noticed that environmental alarmists are riding both sides of the equation? On one hand they predict global warming and cataclysmic events if we continue to burn fossil fuels at the current rate. On the other hand, they predict widespread shortages of fossil fuels in the near future. If the latter is correct, am I not just hurrying the process by driving my SUV? Am I not just ensuring that we are no longer able to burn fossil fuels in the future and thus preventing global warming?

I think it's all a matter of perspective. Besides, the largest consumer of carbon dioxide (and maker of oxygen) is not trees, it's plant plankton. Who destroys all of this preciousss, life giving plant plankton? Whales. I say, we slaughter all the whales to prevent them from eating the plant plankton. After all, it is probably just a big whale plot to flood our coastal cities like New York. The whales have had their eye on our coastal real estate for years, which explains why they are always heaving themselves onto our beaches.
 
^I wish everyone would wise up and stop arguing with me about government, I take poli sci at a university level! Ethics, too. And it turns out you're all immoral cretins. Don't bother trying to deny it... I'm in university.
 
Do you ALWAYS have to prove yourself smarter then us highschool students (who by the way have no basis for anything they say). I mean this is newschoolers not some political science forum or w/e... ^
 
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rodadeaco you are a fucking genius. well put and thankyou.

^^^^^being from a university doesnt mean shit. i know plenty of schools that are easier than my old High School so dont be dockin kids cause they arnt in the same grade as you. I took 'University Level' (whatever the fuck that means) courses back in High School...they were really easy.
 
looks like some people got pussy hurt by my comment. okay, so this is either learning about the environment from a teacher in highschool who is only assigned to teach the material and pretty much takes his lesson from a textbook compared to being taught by a teacher whose life is the material and got his doctors in environmental studies. and gives you the first hand data from his own studies.
 
would somebody care to share what is going on in this thread. a brief summary, im way to damn lazy to read the whole thing. and what relevance does it have to ice is scary?
 
Sorry, I can't take credit for this, I found it while searching the web. It does reflect my point of view however.
 
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