the extremes are a good ski, but not at all my favorite. they are definitely stiff, and they have some heft. I have a pair of Kamp K2 ones that are built a little diff, but are basically the same ski. they are slow and heavy on rails, and dont have the flex to really jib right (unless your heavier, im only like 160). However, where they do really shine is on larger jumps and high speeds. the stiffness and weight make them dead stable there, and if this is your first park ski itll be a good transition ski