I have a couple questions for you.

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Myfirstname.

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I was pondering a couple things. When do you count an inversion as an extra rotation a.k.a. add 360 to the spin?

For example, when my friend or myself does something like an overflip on the trampoline, it seems as though, in all, we only spin 180*

In the trick tip guide, however, the same thing we do, is a 540, so does the inversion count as an extra rotation? or do we really spin a 540 and being inverted totally messes with what rotation it appears to be?

IT may also be that way with misties and rodeos. i don't know, so hopefully you can tell me.

MY second question is, what would an inverted, foward set(i think), spin be? if you set back(i think), there is corked, then d-spin, then rodeo,(with flatspin thrown in somewhere) would it be bio, misty, or something i can't even comprehend if i do the equivilant to a d-spin, only set foward(i think)?

Well, I hope that makes sense.
 
Honestly, I don't think this question will ever be answered until someone attaches some sort of rotation meter to a skier and has a computer keep the axis constant.

We have been calling it 5 forever though, and I don't feel like debating that point.

As I understand it, bio is a forward cork, while misty is inverted (head below feet), and so a forward compliment to d-spin. When I throw a rodeo, I push forward with my trailing shoulder, so I would consider it a forward rotation.
 
in misties and rodeos, you do count the inversion. a misty 5 is KIND OF like a frontflip 180, so 360 of the degrees come from the frontflip.

not that it really matters.
 
huh wow i was having the same argument with my friend about the misty 5... he said that we were only doing 180s i wasnt sure so i looked at a bunch of videos and it looked like we were doign the same rotations as other people were doing but the said they were misty 5s.

so let me get this strait a misty 5 is basically a 180 frontflip so to speak?
 
yes, essentially.

check out videos of misty 5's and they look like fronts with a 180 in them, but they're not...you throw them differently than you would as if you were diving off a diving board and throwing a front 180 because you do go off-axis on a misty and not fully straight over.
 
depends on the trick but mostly it is by what it looks like in realtime without studying it

d-spin 7 if you look at one being correctly done he actually only does a 3 and the flip makes it seem like a 7

a full is considered a 3 and you only rotate 3 so the flip isn't actually counted as a rotation even though there is more of it than a d-spin just because it doesn't look like 7
 
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