I hate my style

Brayblade

Brayblade

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I have a pretty small trick bag and recently have been working on adding more style to my 3's and 5's but every clip that I get just makes me hate how I ski. I started to add grabs to my spins and it helped a bit but I always find something about a clip that I don't like. I watch skiers with style that I like and take inspiration from my homies that ski with me but at the end of the day I cant find a way to get to where I want to be. Does everyone hate their own style or am I just overthinking it?
 
you're probably just overthinking it and/or haven't given yourself ample time to get used to things and develop your style. are you new-ish to park? what don't you like when you watch your clips? posting videos would def help
 
I don’t like that my arms go up every time I spin, I’ve tried a few tricks to fix em but nothing really works. My feet also go into a V when I’m spinning and im working on getting them to go straight. When I work on one issue the other one gets worse.

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14248860:SofaKingSick said:
you're probably just overthinking it and/or haven't given yourself ample time to get used to things and develop your style. are you new-ish to park? what don't you like when you watch your clips? posting videos would def help
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Im new to park but I've been doing the same tricks for a few seasons now and haven't really progressed because I want to improve the tricks I can already do before trying something new. Maybe I should just say fuck it and try some future spins?
 
14248867:Brayblade said:
Im new to park but I've been doing the same tricks for a few seasons now and haven't really progressed because I want to improve the tricks I can already do before trying something new. Maybe I should just say fuck it and try some future spins?
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hmm that second one didn't look bad at all dude, you're definitely getting there

can you make or find a bigger jump? i feel like you might be having some residual bad habits on your 3s because you learned them on a really small jump. that's fine but 3s are kind of funny in that a tiny one is kinda quite different from a normal or big one. now that you have done them, try them on a bigger jump that lets you take your time with the spin. you won't be rushing to get the spin around or leaning back to get through it, and then you have the time to tone down the unnecessary movements and reach down for a grab. don't even need to wind up, just start the spin with your core (flexed) and your shoulders and hips and you can start reaching down for a grab almost immediately if you want. you can decide whether carving into it feels better or worse to you
 
topic:Brayblade said:
I have a pretty small trick bag and recently have been working on adding more style to my 3's and 5's but every clip that I get just makes me hate how I ski. I started to add grabs to my spins and it helped a bit but I always find something about a clip that I don't like. I watch skiers with style that I like and take inspiration from my homies that ski with me but at the end of the day I cant find a way to get to where I want to be. Does everyone hate their own style or am I just overthinking it?
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Everyone hates “their” style. It looks fine my dude. The more you do it the more comfortable you’ll get with it the more relaxed you’ll be in the air the easier it’ll look.
 
14248873:SofaKingSick said:
hmm that second one didn't look bad at all dude, you're definitely getting there

can you make or find a bigger jump? i feel like you might be having some residual bad habits on your 3s because you learned them on a really small jump. that's fine but 3s are kind of funny in that a tiny one is kinda quite different from a normal or big one. now that you have done them, try them on a bigger jump that lets you take your time with the spin. you won't be rushing to get the spin around or leaning back to get through it, and then you have the time to tone down the unnecessary movements and reach down for a grab. don't even need to wind up, just start the spin with your core (flexed) and your shoulders and hips and you can start reaching down for a grab almost immediately if you want. you can decide whether carving into it feels better or worse to you
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I've tried a few on bigger jumps but I still have the issue with my arms, any tips on how to get them down? I've heard using poles helps but I already learned my bad habits with poles. Never really thought to engage my core haha thanks for the tip!
 
14248877:Brayblade said:
I've tried a few on bigger jumps but I still have the issue with my arms, any tips on how to get them down? I've heard using poles helps but I already learned my bad habits with poles. Never really thought to engage my core haha thanks for the tip!
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definitely remember to flex your core. when you're doing something demanding in skiing, you should be leaning forward athletically almost like you're about to tackle someone, your shins pushing against the tongues of your boots, that's the body position you want to keep control of things. does carving a tiny bit into the jump seem comfortable to you? it can help you learn that your arms never have to even leave your side on a 3 really, not for the sake of the spin. just initiate the spin with your whole body (flexed, remember) and lift your knees and feet up a little and reach down a little for a grab. your grabbing hand is reaching down and your other hand can do whatever it wants for the time being. i think that should help cut down the arm movements

seriously though that second one looked pretty good dude. just keep doing them and you'll feel more and more comfortable on them and other tricks
 
14248881:SofaKingSick said:
definitely remember to flex your core. when you're doing something demanding in skiing, you should be leaning forward athletically almost like you're about to tackle someone, your shins pushing against the tongues of your boots, that's the body position you want to keep control of things. does carving a tiny bit into the jump seem comfortable to you? it can help you learn that your arms never have to even leave your side on a 3 really, not for the sake of the spin. just initiate the spin with your whole body (flexed, remember) and lift your knees and feet up a little and reach down a little for a grab. your grabbing hand is reaching down and your other hand can do whatever it wants for the time being. i think that should help cut down the arm movements

seriously though that second one looked pretty good dude. just keep doing them and you'll feel more and more comfortable on them and other tricks
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carving definitely helps, I feel more in control on the takeoff than I do spinning flat. I appreciate the hype man! My home resort is looking really good now so ill try to get some clips this weekend and post an update to the thread.
 
14248888:GrandThings said:
Bro what, these clips are fire. Love how slow the rotation on the second one was especially.
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I grew up racing so I'm pretty analytical about how I ski, it seems like I'm taking it too far though. Little things like how my feet are angled or where my hands are bug me when I watch my own clips
 
14248888:GrandThings said:
Bro what, these clips are fire. Love how slow the rotation on the second one was especially.
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Also really appreciate the hype, not what I was looking for in this thread but yall are jus too nice
 
14248887:Brayblade said:
carving definitely helps, I feel more in control on the takeoff than I do spinning flat. I appreciate the hype man! My home resort is looking really good now so ill try to get some clips this weekend and post an update to the thread.
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perfect, you can get more into that carve then if you feel it. yeah, go do more! you're doing great man, i think part of it is just a habit of yours to open up halfway through the spin, leftover from learning them and being scared of the spin not getting finished. you've obv done some now so now you know you can trust the plan, the spin is coming around, you don't need to open up or put your arms up. add a grab if you're feeling it. you're doin well man just keep at it!
 
I’ve been skiing park for years and still hate my style sometimes, it’s an evolving thing though- you’ll always have something you don’t like or want to improve.
 
Second one was v clean. Keeping your skis together in the air would add approximately 5 style points, instead of the shoulder-width stance you’re rocking here.
 
14248909:evanball said:
Second one was v clean. Keeping your skis together in the air would add approximately 5 style points, instead of the shoulder-width stance you’re rocking here.
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That’s what I think too, does carving help? If not are there any tricks to it? Do I just try to bring my skis together?
 
Here are a couple of points:

In regard to the clips you posted I did notice something on the second clip you are going to want to correct. When you set your rotation your eyes are down (00:06) causing you to spin off axis. When you do a 360 always make sure to keep you eyes and head level and that will keep you on axis and clean up your rotation. Even when you land you should be looking at the horizon and use your peripheral vision to spot the landing. I think that is also why your arms are kind of wonky because your fighting to get back on axis to land.

Here is a good exercise for this- Stair Jumps. Find a set of stairs and jump up them 2 or 3 at a time and focus on keeping your eyes level and straight ahead. Your natural reaction will be to try to look down to see the stair you are landing on so you need to force yourself to keep those eyes up and use your peripheral vision to land on the stair. Once you train your eyes this way it will be more natural to do it skiing. Also do a bunch of 180s and 360s in your bedroom or wherever and focus on keeping your core engaged and your eyes level each time. I actually like to do a warmup lap or two on the groomers and focus only on keeping my eyes up, core stacked and other mechanics to get set for the day.

For the record, I could not land 360s to save my life until I joined CUFST and the coaches taught me the above and it was night and day difference.

As for style. Please whatever you do dont try to "Have Style". You will look goofy as hell and your skiing will look forced and it will teach you bad mechanics. All style comes from your unique body type reacting to proper form. Style also comes from comfort and the more time you spend in the air on tramps and diving boards etc the more your body will get used to floating in free space and it will clean up your jumps.
 
14248910:Brayblade said:
That’s what I think too, does carving help? If not are there any tricks to it? Do I just try to bring my skis together?
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I would not recommend carving into your spins. It will become a crutch and allow you to have bad form.
 
14248914:SuspiciousFish said:
Here are a couple of points:

In regard to the clips you posted I did notice something on the second clip you are going to want to correct. When you set your rotation your eyes are down (00:06) causing you to spin off axis. When you do a 360 always make sure to keep you eyes and head level and that will keep you on axis and clean up your rotation. Even when you land you should be looking at the horizon and use your peripheral vision to spot the landing. I think that is also why your arms are kind of wonky because your fighting to get back on axis to land.

Here is a good exercise for this- Stair Jumps. Find a set of stairs and jump up them 2 or 3 at a time and focus on keeping your eyes level and straight ahead. Your natural reaction will be to try to look down to see the stair you are landing on so you need to force yourself to keep those eyes up and use your peripheral vision to land on the stair. Once you train your eyes this way it will be more natural to do it skiing. Also do a bunch of 180s and 360s in your bedroom or wherever and focus on keeping your core engaged and your eyes level each time. I actually like to do a warmup lap or two on the groomers and focus only on keeping my eyes up, core stacked and other mechanics to get set for the day.

For the record, I could not land 360s to save my life until I joined CUFST and the coaches taught me the above and it was night and day difference.

As for style. Please whatever you do dont try to "Have Style". You will look goofy as hell and your skiing will look forced and it will teach you bad mechanics. All style comes from your unique body type reacting to proper form. Style also comes from comfort and the more time you spend in the air on tramps and diving boards etc the more your body will get used to floating in free space and it will clean up your jumps.
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Thanks a ton man!! I’ll def use the drills, I have noticed when I do bigger spins I get more off axis and land back seat a lot
 
14248864:Brayblade said:
I don’t like that my arms go up every time I spin, I’ve tried a few tricks to fix em but nothing really works. My feet also go into a V when I’m spinning and im working on getting them to go straight. When I work on one issue the other one gets worse.

[video]https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/994869/trim-604EBF69-A8F6-4B76-8EF3-B09B2D6DC89B-MOV[/video]

[video]https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/994870/trim-A83CB716-EE34-4239-BC1C-8B71CC7C4EC4-MOV[/video]
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Your style is smooth asf, if it really bothers you then focus on loosening up your shoulders and arms before every trick as well as keeping your knees bent low. For me your clips were super satisfying to watch and I'm generally pretty critical of style. I've heard that almost everyone hates watching themselves ski/skate/etc. so i wouldn't sweat it.

btw your afterbang is really good, you really be shoving your hands down the moment you hit the ground.

**This post was edited on Feb 24th 2021 at 4:25:38pm
 
Kind of a different approach, but try and work on your form. Do some dumb-looking 3s that will score well in a mogul comp. T set, strong arms, eyes up, the whole 9 yards. Once you drill the foundation and balance, loosen it up. Lower your arms slightly and keep them in. Bend the knees. Even though it might sound like an oxymoron, style should come from a foundation of good form. Good form preaches balance and awareness. Style is supposed to be effortless. A trick has to be done with good awareness and balance to be effortless.
 
14248931:FruitBootPro said:
Your style is smooth asf, if it really bothers you then focus on loosening up your shoulders and arms before every trick as well as keeping your knees bent low. For me your clips were super satisfying to watch and I'm generally pretty critical of style. I've heard that almost everyone hates watching themselves ski/skate/etc. so i wouldn't sweat it.

btw your afterbang is really good, you really be shoving your hands down the moment you hit the ground.

**This post was edited on Feb 24th 2021 at 4:25:38pm
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Much appreciated, bending my knees has been a huge battle for me as dumb as it sounds. My natural instinct is to become a complete boner in the air
 
14248980:grantn_ said:
Just get pants two sizes too big for u
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When T Hall was on the bombhole podcast he talked about how baggy shit looks objectively better cuz it hides all the flaws in your riding

also I think everyone thinks their style could be wayyyy better, I certainly do most of the time
 
Bend your knees. Keep your legs close together. Keep your arms down and avoid flailing. Don’t look down while you’re spinning. Don’t neglect your basic tricks.
 
14248991:Idahoe said:
When T Hall was on the bombhole podcast he talked about how baggy shit looks objectively better cuz it hides all the flaws in your riding

also I think everyone thinks their style could be wayyyy better, I certainly do most of the time
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Personally I think baggy stuff just looks more flowy. I'm at the point where non-baggy clothes just look weird to me for any action sport lol.
 
Man ur fully trippin I mean ya you don’t have the sickest style ive ever seen but if you’re only at the point of doing 3’a and 5’s and you land like that then ur gonna be disgusting once you progress more I promise
 
idk dude your skiing looks good to me. just keep practicing the same things over and over and it will come naturally.
 
afterbang afterbang afterbang

doesn't matter if you just stomped your first rail or a cork 7, if you look like you know what your doing you'll have mega swag, even if you really don't.
 
I'm in the same boat where my threes are ugly and I think this is right, the jump is too small. It looks like I'm trying as hard as I can to spin as fast as possible on a a smaller jump. My problem is when I finally find a big enough jump the 360 goes down the shitter and I plant face.

heres the biggest one ive done, notice that theres no wind up necessary it was super easy to not have to twist super hard. The second one was my first attempts in pow and i kept getting anxious and taking off at like 90 degrees.
 
14248877:Brayblade said:
I've tried a few on bigger jumps but I still have the issue with my arms, any tips on how to get them down? I've heard using poles helps but I already learned my bad habits with poles. Never really thought to engage my core haha thanks for the tip!
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In both videos you sort of look under your arm, its something 90% of people learning spins do so dont feel bad about it but it helps me a lot to just try to look straight over my shoulder instead of under my arm. hope it helps
 
14248875:dan38 said:
Everyone hates “their” style. It looks fine my dude. The more you do it the more comfortable you’ll get with it the more relaxed you’ll be in the air the easier it’ll look.
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I like my a style a little to much for what it is lol
 
I think this is a relatively common psychological phenomena. I can't stand to look at pictures of myself, and I do not like watching clips of me skiing either.
 
topic:Brayblade said:
I have a pretty small trick bag and recently have been working on adding more style to my 3's and 5's but every clip that I get just makes me hate how I ski. I started to add grabs to my spins and it helped a bit but I always find something about a clip that I don't like. I watch skiers with style that I like and take inspiration from my homies that ski with me but at the end of the day I cant find a way to get to where I want to be. Does everyone hate their own style or am I just overthinking it?
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repetition repetition repetition brother

It happens through time. A tip though is that carving 3s made mine really steezy somehow, like i sucked up my knees and my tips went down and all that jazz.

Just keep skiing.
 
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