I dont think girls deserve it

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skogenjake

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ive heard alot of you say things like "well the girls dress like that, they deserve to get raped or taken advantage of". i dont agree with this at all. i respect girls. there are so many pressues for them to look good. its alot of their life. for us, we can wear sweats and shit and not take any crap. ive heard what dave chapelle said on the matter, so dont try to act original. if a girl likes you, she likes you, dont force shit on her, ya know? she isnt a "bitch or hoe" because the new thing at hollister is a short jean skirt. shes normal. deal with it.
 
ok true its not all about the way they dress but if she acts like a slut and she looks like a slut then shes an armadillo!!
 
okay....no one deserves to be raped but when a girl has half her ass hanging out the bottom of her skirt don't act like she's not degrading herself
 
so if you think shes degrading herself, that in some way, that justifys it?

i dont think i can slip my dick into the hooters waitresses. i dont drop quarters and tell the bitch to bend over.

shes not degrading herself. who sets the standards for what is right and wrong? parents? the media/tabloids? see the problem with that? girls wear what they have to and like to. you dont take crap for how you dress. not directly from other people, from "looks", and from the strains placed on them from what is accepted and stressed by tv, magazines, models...
 
dude chicks wearing skirts that only cover half of their ass is degrading..now in no way am i saying that they deserve to be raped
 
This is what I was wearing when some guy slipped something in my drink..... i guess i "deserved it"

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i havent seen any 1/2 ass skirts, but ill be on the look out. do you really care what they do to themselves? just dont date them if you think they are "slutty."
 
i dont know what angle your trying to play here but if you dont think that girls dressing slutty is not degrading then your lying to yourself
 
i didnt say she deserved to be raped...god you read wayyyyyyyyyyy too much into that...if a girl dresses like the way I mentioned above "she is degrading herself" the same way I would be if i wore a speedo thong to the beach...when you dress in a blatantly sexual manner you are being disrespectful to yourself...thats what I'm saying...so keep your dick out of the hooters girls, please
 
im not playing an angle i just wanted to throw this out in a thread here.

i dont really think they should be looked down on because of what they wear. they have reasons for wearing that. ive already stated some. i dont think they "are asking for it" and thats the point of the thread.
 
i think that girls who go too far should be looked down upon. like if shes got the half ass skirt and like a quarter of a shirt on then she is degrading herself.. girls can look nice without looking like sluts
 
People wear certian clothes depending on their mood and sometime what they want to convey to other people.

its also a personal level choice when it comes down to it.

One girl might be a slut and she goes outs dressed in nice clothes to pick up.

another might just be going out to have a good time but she dresses slightly skimpier, she could be mormon for all we know.

If you saw the two of them in the bar, which one are you going to classify as a slut?
 
Basically, you may not feel like a slut but you have to be prepared for the impression your going to give other people.
 
ill use and example. one of my best friends that a girl goes to a differnt school. i only see her usually on the weekends. i have many never seen her in a t shirt. just weird halter things and things that cut lower. shes amazingly nice and friendly to everyone. she is in no way slutty. shes wearing what she likes to, what shes thinks looks nice. is it degrading? no.

i think you and i are squaring off over nothing. i agree there is a limit and like fishnet thongs and shit and a joke, but that wasnt the point of this.
 
when your 1/2 in the bag, you can make it seem like anyone is all over anyone.

That girl on the dance floor dressed skimpy might look like she wants you to grab here ass, but we know thats the beer talking
 
Im not saying that halter tops or low cuts are slutty. I didnt use ANY clothing at all in my point.
 
i agree mostly, there is NO excuse for raping someone, no matter how much they've drank or what they are wearing, or their reputation.

but i couldn't disagree more than your statement about girls having pressure to look good. being influenced by 'the media' or what the 'masses' think is weakness. i dress in whatever i damn well please, and any good person in this world wouldn't pass judgement based on my attire. and people who do are shallow and not even worth associating with. and to anyone who disagrees with all of this and does feel the need to dress a certain 'acceptable' way, get some new friends & start living for yourself- not everyone else.
 
oh sure it can be said they are "weak" for it, but i wasnt saying it as a moral thing. if she is "weak" its her problem isnt justifiable to mistreat someone because of it. to be like "ugh she dresses like a slut" just because shes not in jeans and a hoodie isnt right. she either likes the clothes, or feels like she needs to wear it for attention. sure shes weak if shes just grabbing attention, but then again, isnt judging her as well?

not everyone is as individual as you. some girls need to fit in. they feel its necessary. should they be looked down upon? no.

most guys play sports or lift weights. i gurantee alot of guys do it to look good and feel good about themselves. isnt that just what the girls are doing? but guys dont take crap for working out...not at all.

i just want to add im skinny and alot of girls have told me that they prefer it that way. yay for change.
 
so if a girl is dressed in a hookers uniform, it doesnt mean shes a hooker right?

so if im dressed in a police uniform, does it mean im a policeman?

or something like that. dave chappelle i think.
 
actions have consequences, and i have no pity for those not conscious of this. i personally don't pass judgements on how people dress, but most people do. so if you go to a party in something tight and lowcut and all prettied up- whether that's to look good in the eyes of others, or for yourself, you are putting yourself at risk of being a target. if you look generically "good" guys will hit on you, that's kind of the goal a lot of the time, but it would be idiotic to think it's all rainbows and sunshine if you look like you want to get laid or if you are working the room yeah, you are putting yourself at higher risk of being victimized, and although there's no excuse for rape, there are ways to avoid it, and if you value the reasons you dress or act a certain way more than the risk of being raped or objectified than you ARE walking into it. and it's not worth protesting and saying i should be able to do whatever i want and not get raped, because you can't. life isn't fair, and that's the way shit works. personally i don't want to have another bad experience like one i had in the past, so i don't put myself in situations around strangers, i will never go "clubbing", and i hate frat parties. i dress modestly and when i'm getting wasted, or fucked up, i do it with people i trust and love dearly, and it's working pretty damn well for me so far- knock on wood.
 
you can look good and not work the room.

whatever. i still dont think they "deserve it" if they dress a certain way. if i wear a tight sleevless muscle t shirt (well maybe not me) a puca shelled necklace and jeans that have paint already spilled on them, do i deserve to have girls comming over and grinding all up on my junk?

most guys dont even care what the girl wears. rob mentioned something about that last night. there are guys that appreciate and respect girls, almost no matter what and there are those that call the ones with short skirts sluts and go over and try to use them.

i am essentialy talking about the male aspect and those that are flawed to be the second of the two guys i described in this thread.
 
If a girl wears a tight ass tank top that shows her whole stomache and a push up bra, and a skirt that goes wayyyy up them thighs....shes a slut.
 
yeah as i said there are limits.

i personally dont feel i should treat her badly becuase of it. if a girl is dressed really slutty, i dont think i have any right to call her out on it.
 
partially true but what matters is if i girl forces guys to thik about her sexually by dressing sluttily, she should be aware that there are guys out there with no self-control who will try anf force her. And she should also be aware that a lot of girls looking similair do in fact want random play from strangers, so otherpeople will fit her into that stereotype and she should be prepared for that.
 
so what has been established? some guys suck and will mistreat and force themselves on girls that dress suggestively, these guys as bad, there is a limit for what is appropriate, guys dont face the same pressures, and my point about the pressures of the masses/media is applicable, but with girls that are weak.

so pretty much the point of this thread ended up just circulating and changing a little. i got some good conversation out of it.
 
i didn't say you automatically worked the room if you looked good. you don't even need a pair of express jeans and a tank top to look good. i've done some personal research lately, and i think girls create an illusion in their minds of what guys think looks good, but really that's just the corporate monster taking advantage of weak minds to aid consumption rates and create a social 'norm' following which means you can inflate prices and other weak minds will continue to pay higher prices for low quality clothing because they feel the need to belong to the masses. but that's all beside my point. my personal choice of attire is pretty 'tomboy-ish' and modest, i don't like things that fit tightly usually and i don't like wearing makeup, or putting products in my hair and that kind of stuff. i have recieved more compliments wearing a ratty hoodie and some dockers than i have when i rarely do put on a skirt or wear some tight jeans and a shirt.... and i think it's always smarter to just present yourself the way you think is best, feels best to you, looks best to you... and is cheap (or expensive if that's what you dig). guys respect you more when you respect yourself. not to say if you wear tight clothes and dress mainstream and girly you have no self respect, because that's not true. i just think that a lot of the time many women sacrifice their own individuality and personal eclectic taste to please someone else or fit into some idea of normality. when really they are just throwing away themselves and settling for what seems right. ever wonder why a lot of girls thrive on compliments? and have very low self esteem. well my little rant there explains my personal reasoning for parts of that whole madness. this is all true for guys to, i just put it in a way of discussing girls because that's the topic at hand, but you can put 'guy' in every place i put 'girl' in this post and it still all makes sense (to me). i just think sometimes girls don't realize what exactly they ar attracting, and how unappealing a guy who is after you because you look generically 'hot' is. i guess it's just the way i look at it, but i do believe if everyone stopped giving a damn about what everyone else thinks... things would just be so much better....
 
she isnt a "bitch or hoe" because the new thing at hollister is a short jean skirt. shes normal. deal with it.

Way to practice what you preach.
 
^ and by that I mean.. you said, "they aren't bitches or hoes".. and then you go on and use the word, "bitch" to reference the girl. Way to go.
 
Rachel, that sucks, no one deserves that. People who do that shit are fucking scumbags and do not deserve to have balls. Honestly, I dont' think any girl deserves something that emotionally damaging, but I do believe that some girls that wear next to nothing with clothes and constantly put them in situations where that event could occur, and then it does... Well I just got to say to those girls, what do you think was going to happen? Other than those girls, the ones who get taken advantage of for just being themselves, well, man I'm sorry.
 
as if anynoe cares how others dress.

i see people pointing out another because of something flashy or "different" that ones wearing.

soo dumb, why not just let them be.

i dunno in my head i have opinions, like i think dressing like a gangster looks fucking retarded.

but im not gunna go make point it out everytime i see some sissy bitch wearing an XXL shirt. I just tend to keep it in my head for the most part.

fuck everyone
 
no, you are retarded by not realizing i was making a point. im sorry i didnt use quotation marks on that word. i thought it was apparent what i was trying ot get acrossed.
 
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