I Dislike.. Vegetarians..Peta and green peace
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twintipteles
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This thread is fucking ridiculous. The vast majority of you have no idea what you're talking about.
Eating a vegitarian/vegan diet is better for the environment and that's a fact. There are many reasons for this, and most have already been explained, but it basically comes down to meat taking alot more resources to produce than grain etc.
Some people don't like to kill animals. Fine. Why does that bother you? I have a feeling that alot of you would be astonished if someone killed and ate your pet, and would say shit about how Cows are dumber than dogs, and deserve death. However, in many parts of the world, they eat dogs and cats, and water buffalo are integral parts of the community.
The treatment of animals that are not organic/freerange is terrible. Most of you would be sickened if you saw it in person, not only because of the unnecessary cruelty and pain that the animals suffer though, but also just the gross and unsanitary conditions in which your meat is processed.
Also, all the shit about eating meat being natural is ridiculous. Many species, including some primates (yes, pretty much our ancestors) eat their own young, but this would be inconceivable in this day and age. We've reached a point in our society where just because something feels natural, it is no longer justifiable. Rape could be considered natural, since it is just following primal instincts after all.
If anyone says shit about me trying to force my views on others in this thread, then they can shut the fuck up, since this thread was started specifically to criticize people who are actually making an effort to bring about some small change that will benefit all of us.
Eating a vegitarian/vegan diet is better for the environment and that's a fact. There are many reasons for this, and most have already been explained, but it basically comes down to meat taking alot more resources to produce than grain etc.
Some people don't like to kill animals. Fine. Why does that bother you? I have a feeling that alot of you would be astonished if someone killed and ate your pet, and would say shit about how Cows are dumber than dogs, and deserve death. However, in many parts of the world, they eat dogs and cats, and water buffalo are integral parts of the community.
The treatment of animals that are not organic/freerange is terrible. Most of you would be sickened if you saw it in person, not only because of the unnecessary cruelty and pain that the animals suffer though, but also just the gross and unsanitary conditions in which your meat is processed.
Also, all the shit about eating meat being natural is ridiculous. Many species, including some primates (yes, pretty much our ancestors) eat their own young, but this would be inconceivable in this day and age. We've reached a point in our society where just because something feels natural, it is no longer justifiable. Rape could be considered natural, since it is just following primal instincts after all.
If anyone says shit about me trying to force my views on others in this thread, then they can shut the fuck up, since this thread was started specifically to criticize people who are actually making an effort to bring about some small change that will benefit all of us.
almostaskier
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Um, dude? Eating meat being natural or not has nothing to do with ethics, it has all to do with physiology. We have all the right enzymes and digestive system to process and assimilate meat into out systems. Eating ones young is completely different than eating another animal, and rape is not an instinct, sex is...
You bring ancestors into this? Think about cavemen. They ate and hunted and yet here we are.
If you want to discuss the ethics of eating other animals, whatever. But don't say eating meat isn't natural, say it isn't moral, because it kinda is natural...
You bring ancestors into this? Think about cavemen. They ate and hunted and yet here we are.
If you want to discuss the ethics of eating other animals, whatever. But don't say eating meat isn't natural, say it isn't moral, because it kinda is natural...
jarossamdb7
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im sorry, im pretty much as liberal as they get, but BULLSHIT! Among other things, it depends on your blood type. its wether YOUR body was genetically evolved to eat meat or plants. Some people feel much better when they eat meat, some people feel much better when they dont.
jarossamdb7
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FUCKING GREENPEACE DOES NOT BURN HUMMERS GET YOUR GOD DAMN SHIT STRAIGHT. Most of the shit greenpeace does is totally awesome. Example; putting their boat in the way of bomb testing done in international waters in order to hold the testing up. I would totally support such a non violent way of actually influencing somehting in the world.
fulltiltrocker
Member
look, let me make something
abundantly clear for people
who are so bereft of activities
they feel like they gotta comment on mine.
first of all being a vegetarian should
never be associated with being
a revolutionary or being open-minded.
that's a dietary choice.
if someone wants to proliferate the
type of ignorance we're supposed to
be fighting by thinking that,
you're just fucking yourself.
i don't go around promoting
beef and poetry shoving it in
people's faces.
i don't castigate people for not
eating steak sandwiches;
and i would never diss someone
for being a fucking broccoli-head,
or living off of radishes,
or eating grass or tofu.
i like a lot of vegan cuisine.
but the illogicality of expecting
everyone to adopt their particular
idea of what being healthy is
is just preposterous.
i've seen some of you herbivores;
and if you want to argue health,
y'all need to eat some kind of supplement
because some of y'all are so skinny
that it's disgusting; looking like the
only hip-hop motherfuckers on schindler's list.
being a malnutrition-ass got nothing to do
with being revolutionary or being on-point.
i'll be damned if i let somebody else push
their agenda on me. you know i don't eat pork,
not because i'm a muslim, i just don't
really like it, but i really will
fuck a bird up. and fish is good
when that shit is fresh. if you don't like
the smell of burning meat, well then get
the fuck off the planet. you know i don't
criticize people for eating moss,
then don't open your fucking mouth
about my food, man. i like beef
and broccoli motherfucker. mind
your god-damn business.
abundantly clear for people
who are so bereft of activities
they feel like they gotta comment on mine.
first of all being a vegetarian should
never be associated with being
a revolutionary or being open-minded.
that's a dietary choice.
if someone wants to proliferate the
type of ignorance we're supposed to
be fighting by thinking that,
you're just fucking yourself.
i don't go around promoting
beef and poetry shoving it in
people's faces.
i don't castigate people for not
eating steak sandwiches;
and i would never diss someone
for being a fucking broccoli-head,
or living off of radishes,
or eating grass or tofu.
i like a lot of vegan cuisine.
but the illogicality of expecting
everyone to adopt their particular
idea of what being healthy is
is just preposterous.
i've seen some of you herbivores;
and if you want to argue health,
y'all need to eat some kind of supplement
because some of y'all are so skinny
that it's disgusting; looking like the
only hip-hop motherfuckers on schindler's list.
being a malnutrition-ass got nothing to do
with being revolutionary or being on-point.
i'll be damned if i let somebody else push
their agenda on me. you know i don't eat pork,
not because i'm a muslim, i just don't
really like it, but i really will
fuck a bird up. and fish is good
when that shit is fresh. if you don't like
the smell of burning meat, well then get
the fuck off the planet. you know i don't
criticize people for eating moss,
then don't open your fucking mouth
about my food, man. i like beef
and broccoli motherfucker. mind
your god-damn business.
jarossamdb7
Active member
ok, thats great, but no one associated with greenpeace did any burning of hummers. that is earth liberation front, I belive...
Aerozol
Active member
What's up with that stupid fuck who keeps saying eating meat is less wasteful than eating other stuff??
THE GRAIN THE COW EATS IS PROCESSED INTO ITS MEAT, THAT WE THEN CONSUME, DUMBASS
No energy is lost in the process, whatever the animal excretes has all the nutrients etc taken out of it, and is only good for fertilising the land.
THE GRAIN THE COW EATS IS PROCESSED INTO ITS MEAT, THAT WE THEN CONSUME, DUMBASS
No energy is lost in the process, whatever the animal excretes has all the nutrients etc taken out of it, and is only good for fertilising the land.
SkiMN
Active member
Vegetarians: Fine if they dont think they are better off. if you really want to be healthy you need a balanced diet of all types of food. If you disagree with what science has proven your an asshole. If you simply choose not to eat meat, fine.
Peta: Just another extreme, sorta like the NRA to use a bad example. There has to be a right and left for everything to balance out. In my opinion, Peta can go suck walrus cock, but they have the right to do what they want as long as they stay out of my way.
Green Peace: Yeah, they make a good point, but like I said, there has to be two extremes. Yes they are right, but they are fuckin moroms to expect us to hold everything and change our lifestyle to accomplish their goals.
Peta: Just another extreme, sorta like the NRA to use a bad example. There has to be a right and left for everything to balance out. In my opinion, Peta can go suck walrus cock, but they have the right to do what they want as long as they stay out of my way.
Green Peace: Yeah, they make a good point, but like I said, there has to be two extremes. Yes they are right, but they are fuckin moroms to expect us to hold everything and change our lifestyle to accomplish their goals.
twintipteles
Active member
You couldn't be more wrong.
When energy is transferred to the next trophic level, only 10% of it is used to build bodymass, becoming stored energy (the rest going to metabolic processes). As such, in a Pyramid of Energy, each step will be 10% the size of the previous step (100, 10, 1, 0.1, 0.001, etc.).
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When energy is transferred to the next trophic level, only 10% of it is used to build bodymass, becoming stored energy (the rest going to metabolic processes). As such, in a Pyramid of Energy, each step will be 10% the size of the previous step (100, 10, 1, 0.1, 0.001, etc.).
twintipteles
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twintipteles
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i guess no hotlinking from wikipedia, heres another picture:
lalalalaura
Active member
....
you're kidding, right?
you're kidding, right?
jarossamdb7
Active member
umm its a fact, energy IS lost, first of all.
second of all, the majority of space of forests we cut down is for cattle.
second of all, the majority of space of forests we cut down is for cattle.
CoFreeskier0182
New member
fuck
AhrenStein
Active member
vegitarians are gay
twintipteles
Active member
how old are you?
On another topic, for people who are at all concerned about climate change and air pollution, the world's cattle release about 100 million tons of methane (a greenhouse gas) into the air annually, about 25% of the total amount of methane released through human-related activities.
On another topic, for people who are at all concerned about climate change and air pollution, the world's cattle release about 100 million tons of methane (a greenhouse gas) into the air annually, about 25% of the total amount of methane released through human-related activities.
twintipteles
Active member
Here are a couple excerpts from a recent joint report by the American Dietic Association and the Dietitions of Canada on vegetarian diets.
Well-planned vegan and other types of vegetarian diets are
appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including during
pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence.
lower levels of saturated fat, cholesterol, and animal
protein as well as higher levels of carbohydrates, fiber, magnesium,
potassium, folate, and antioxidants such as vitamins
C and E and phytochemicals. Vegetarians have been reported
to have lower body mass indices than nonvegetarians, as well
as lower rates of death from ischemic heart disease; vegetarians
also show lower blood cholesterol levels; lower blood
pressure; and lower rates of hypertension, type 2 diabetes,
and prostate and colon cancer.
It is the position of the American Dietetic Association and
Dietitians of Canada that appropriately planned vegetarian
diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and provide
health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain
diseases.
POSITION STATEMENT
Vegetarian diets offer a number of nutritional benefits, including
Well-planned vegan and other types of vegetarian diets are
appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including during
pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence.
lower levels of saturated fat, cholesterol, and animal
protein as well as higher levels of carbohydrates, fiber, magnesium,
potassium, folate, and antioxidants such as vitamins
C and E and phytochemicals. Vegetarians have been reported
to have lower body mass indices than nonvegetarians, as well
as lower rates of death from ischemic heart disease; vegetarians
also show lower blood cholesterol levels; lower blood
pressure; and lower rates of hypertension, type 2 diabetes,
and prostate and colon cancer.
It is the position of the American Dietetic Association and
Dietitians of Canada that appropriately planned vegetarian
diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and provide
health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain
diseases.
POSITION STATEMENT
Vegetarian diets offer a number of nutritional benefits, including
danedegruyter
Active member
fuck it
i say eat what you want.. but dont hold a fucking grudge against eating meat.. its natural and its what god or whatever we came from intended. If it wasnt intended our bodies wouldnt need so much protien to function.. Vegan meals and HEALTHY balanced veggitarian meals need to be prepared.. say we didnt have ANY technology. you would have to eat meat.. you wouldnt survive off friut and leaves so therefore it was intended for us to eat meat to survive.
with all due respect vegitarians are trying to be different from everyone else.. originality is a good thing.. but eating habits are not to be tampered with.
i say eat what you want.. but dont hold a fucking grudge against eating meat.. its natural and its what god or whatever we came from intended. If it wasnt intended our bodies wouldnt need so much protien to function.. Vegan meals and HEALTHY balanced veggitarian meals need to be prepared.. say we didnt have ANY technology. you would have to eat meat.. you wouldnt survive off friut and leaves so therefore it was intended for us to eat meat to survive.
with all due respect vegitarians are trying to be different from everyone else.. originality is a good thing.. but eating habits are not to be tampered with.
jarossamdb7
Active member
thats great. but there are other "experts" that will tell you that some people expeirance more energy during their day when they eat a little meat. not just protine. meat.
freeze_pooter
Active member
at sasquatch last year i bought a burger and went and ate it while staring blankly into th vegan booth. they came over and said here and handed me a pamphlet on the crap they preach and i said thx and wiped my face with it.
JaphyRyder
Active member
HIPPIES!!!! is there a hippy cult?
jarossamdb7
Active member
oh yea, one thought:
There is no such thing as a neo-hippy. you hemp wearing kids who are clean cut listening to greatful dead and smoke pot more then once a day are not hippies, your jsut trendy bastards, so shut the fuck up.
There is no such thing as a neo-hippy. you hemp wearing kids who are clean cut listening to greatful dead and smoke pot more then once a day are not hippies, your jsut trendy bastards, so shut the fuck up.
Please watch Denis Leary - No Cure for Cancer. I share his opinions on this topic. You can get it on limewire.
"You will eat the meat. Oh yeah... you might have quit the meat now, but eventually, 2 years from now or 3 months from now or 5 days from now you are going to eat the fuckin' meat, I'm telling you right now. Because you have to face a cold hard fact that you vegetarians must stare in the face every god damn day that you're eating vegetables..."
"You will eat the meat. Oh yeah... you might have quit the meat now, but eventually, 2 years from now or 3 months from now or 5 days from now you are going to eat the fuckin' meat, I'm telling you right now. Because you have to face a cold hard fact that you vegetarians must stare in the face every god damn day that you're eating vegetables..."
-_-Johnny-_-
Member
Dude, by eating cows you help destroy the environment. if all the food that is used today as animal fodder was given to people there wouldn't be half as many people starving.
-_-Johnny-_-
Member
lol, I just realized that had nothing to do with the environment
jarossamdb7
Active member
nevertheless, eating cows helps destroy the environment. throusands of trees are cut to make room for cow pastures.
AOTEAROA
Active member
That immortal technique song is the only song that he does that totally discredits him i feel. That "proliferate the type of ignorance we're supposed to be fighting" totally contradicts itself in the context. I bet he wouldn't write another song like that anymore, its rather ignorant and stupid. but i totally agree with pretty much everything else he says.
StevenSegal
Active member
y yes it was truly gay
RKF
Active member
1) just cause people smoke pot doesnt make them a hippy, I know lots of wasteful conservative type people who smoke pot, and i also know lots of left wing socialist hippy types who dont smoke pot.
2) It's 420 Forum, not 420 Cult.
But there should be a hippy cult, or an environmentalist cult or something.
2) It's 420 Forum, not 420 Cult.
But there should be a hippy cult, or an environmentalist cult or something.
RKF
Active member
man... hemp is one of the strongest natural fibers and it is much easier to produce and better for the environment to produce than cotton. so by wearing hemp maybe it just means people are trying to support a small, but growing industry, that could help out alot in reducing the amount of carbon in the air.
and how does the music someone listens to catgorize them?
and as i said above not everyone who smokes pot is a hippy maybe some people just like to smoke pot.
maybe the environment happens to be a pressing issue for people who like to ski, and as a result you and up with alot of people who care about the environment on a skiing related site.
please stop caring about what trends people are/aren't following and try to contribute in a positive way, like state and support why wearing hemp is bad, or why smoking pot is bad, or why the greatful dead is bad.
and how does the music someone listens to catgorize them?
and as i said above not everyone who smokes pot is a hippy maybe some people just like to smoke pot.
maybe the environment happens to be a pressing issue for people who like to ski, and as a result you and up with alot of people who care about the environment on a skiing related site.
please stop caring about what trends people are/aren't following and try to contribute in a positive way, like state and support why wearing hemp is bad, or why smoking pot is bad, or why the greatful dead is bad.
jarossamdb7
Active member
if you're serous, shoot yourself.
jarossamdb7
Active member
I dont mind all those things. Im pretty much as liberal as they get. but again, no such thing as a neo-hippy, and the people who are trying to be hippies piss me off. fuck dude, i have dreads, but thats because I WANT THEM! I actually dont like how people think im a hippy because I have dreads.
Myke
Member
He isn't saying he hates them because they are vegetarians. He just dislikes them because of how they act, they way they flaunt it. Please before posting shit like that get educated.
PS I love big trucks and red meat. Doesn't mean I'm a red neck. I'm Puerto Rican and from NJ. Although sometimes my friends call me a sp-HICK.
PS I love big trucks and red meat. Doesn't mean I'm a red neck. I'm Puerto Rican and from NJ. Although sometimes my friends call me a sp-HICK.