camel's hump or Mansfield? Lol, so weak, the mountain I ski at in NH is a few hundred feet shorter than Mansfield. The White Mountains are a lot bigger than the Greens, so strange. YOu want to talk manly, last week, I cut a 6 foot section of an oak tree into quarters. It was like, 3 feet wide. I did it with 2 axes, a sledgehammer, and a wedge. One of the hardest things I've done in my life, but I felt like a beast.