Hunt for the oldest the pretzel

Can we just acknowledge how far skiing has come and that an edit like this would get downvoted on NS today?

Also I once found a pretzel under my bed that I guardsmen was at least 15 years old
 
Sw 2 pretzel doesn't count as the first pretzel ever, we need to find the first 2 on pretzel 2, which I believe Tom or Steve were the first (ish) to do it probably in a super old roundtop riders edit.

The first time I even heard people talk about 2 on pretz 2 was at high North in 04 and they were talking about Tom being able to do it. Ns find the vid.
 
Corey Vanular's 2pretz2 in Shanghai Six (2005) was probably the first one in a bigger ski movie.

Also, from the same season (0:30):

[video]https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/51105/Can-Vanular-Kick-It-[/video]
 
13652565:eheath said:
Sw 2 pretzel doesn't count as the first pretzel ever, we need to find the first 2 on pretzel 2, which I believe Tom or Steve were the first (ish) to do it probably in a super old roundtop riders edit.

The first time I even heard people talk about 2 on pretz 2 was at high North in 04 and they were talking about Tom being able to do it. Ns find the vid.

Can you explain how Corey doing a sw 2 pretz 2 doesn't count as the first (recorded) pretzel? The superunknown was from 2003
 
13652569:S.J.W said:
Can you explain how Corey doing a sw 2 pretz 2 doesn't count as the first (recorded) pretzel? The superunknown was from 2003

Because it's a sw 2 pretzel
 
13652570:eheath said:
Because it's a sw 2 pretzel

And I fail to see your point.

A pretzel is spinning one way onto a rail, spinning off the different way. Which corey did. Now unless I'm wrong, which I might be but that's my understanding of a pretzel.
 
13652571:S.J.W said:
And I fail to see your point.

A pretzel is spinning one way onto a rail, spinning off the different way. Which corey did. Now unless I'm wrong, which I might be but that's my understanding of a pretzel.

Nah I just don't think sw2 pretzel should count as the first ever pretz. Sw2 pretzel is 100 times easier, that's my reasoning.
 
https://vimeo.com/11571087
13652574:eheath said:
Nah I just don't think sw2 pretzel should count as the first ever pretz. Sw2 pretzel is 100 times easier, that's my reasoning.

yeah you're right. I guess you had to understand the point where skiing was at. Front 2's had been tossed for years, so throwing in sw2's before wasn't that mind blowing. Switching body directions on a regular 2 in was though, especially as skiing was largely overshadowed by snowboarding and the trick really can't be done properly/consistently on a snowboard. It really was revolutionary

this definitely isn't the first, but it'd be one of the first ones for sure
https://vimeo.com/11571087

+k for an embed

also hilarious to see tom, steve and warnick at probably 15 years old?
 
13652571:Abu-Baghdadi said:
A pretzel is spinning one way onto a rail, spinning off the different way.

Pretzel used to be the nickname for 2 blind 2.

Also for most skiers, a sw 2 front 2 is way easier than a 2 blind 2
 
13652568:Musikunat said:
Corey Vanular's 2pretz2 in Shanghai Six (2005) was probably the first one in a bigger ski movie.

Also, from the same season (0:30):

[video]https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/51105/Can-Vanular-Kick-It-[/video]

that shot at 0:30 is definitely the one i remember as being the first i saw. it was in a different edit and was the last shot im pretty sure, and the comment section was full of discussion on what it's called ("270 to rewind 270!" "no, you just say 270 on to backside 270" etc etc)

and yeah, corey's in shanghai six is the first one i can think of in a major movie

im not saying no one ever did one before him, but i wouldnt be surprised if that was the case. simply 270ing onto rails only got big the year before that...

someone should ask corey when his first one was, and if he knows of one that happened before that
 
13652569:Abu-Baghdadi said:
Can you explain how Corey doing a sw 2 pretz 2 doesn't count as the first (recorded) pretzel? The superunknown was from 2003

because you can be looking the same way the whole time on sw2
 
13652565:eheath said:
Sw 2 pretzel doesn't count as the first pretzel ever, we need to find the first 2 on pretzel 2, which I believe Tom or Steve were the first (ish) to do it probably in a super old roundtop riders edit.

The first time I even heard people talk about 2 on pretz 2 was at high North in 04 and they were talking about Tom being able to do it. Ns find the vid.

Vanular was the first on that flat rail at whatever the fuck that rail jam was.
 
SteveStepp

pretzels are damn sick, i give mad props to anyone who can do them

It's crazy reading comments on videos that old. I mean I remember when some of these things were new, but when you see stuff every day in the park and edits you forget about life before it.

I feel like you'd have to do a triple cork out of a one footed grind while chugging a beer for people to care that much these days
 
13653231:RudyGarmisch said:
I like this thread and think we need more of the same caliber.

First 360 swap?

the first one i remember seeing was will in an old killington edit, he was wearing one of those giro helmets with a huge visor, for some reason i remember that
 
First person I ever saw do one was C Van. I remember watching it in a backyard edit and also breck edit and going to bolton valley a few days later to try and learn it. I've heard it was K Day though.
 
I'll also agree that the first pretzel I ever saw was CVan on that first rail in freeway. I watched that over and over having my mind blown. That fall Shanghai Six came out and he had that pretzel in the rail jam.

During that summer Roundtop Riders (Wallish, Stepp) had the mammoth Zoolander in it that had more pretzels than I could count. That was the first edit that I ever saw that made me think pretzels are actually a possible trick.

I think all of this was 2005. Maybe 2004.
 
13654910:jensen said:
I'll also agree that the first pretzel I ever saw was CVan on that first rail in freeway. I watched that over and over having my mind blown. That fall Shanghai Six came out and he had that pretzel in the rail jam.

During that summer Roundtop Riders (Wallish, Stepp) had the mammoth Zoolander in it that had more pretzels than I could count. That was the first edit that I ever saw that made me think pretzels are actually a possible trick.

I think all of this was 2005. Maybe 2004.
 
[video]https://www.newschoolers.com/videos/watch/43613/back-yard-training-zone--hopefully-it-works-now-[/video]

this is both way 270 to switch in dec 2003
 
Vanular's was the first one I ever saw in that Breck edit.

Remember when we called switch 7 shifty's switch 7 REWINDS?
 
13652536:NewEscuelers said:
Can we just acknowledge how far skiing has come and that an edit like this would get downvoted on NS today?

Also I once found a pretzel under my bed that I guardsmen was at least 15 years old

In 2003 I was getting kicked out of a park because it was snowboarders only.
 
13652536:NewEscuelers said:
Can we just acknowledge how far skiing has come and that an edit like this would get downvoted on NS today?

Also I once found a pretzel under my bed that I guardsmen was at least 15 years old

That edit came out 9 years before you even got a newschoolers account kiddo..
 
13653231:RudyGarmisch said:
I like this thread and think we need more of the same caliber.

First 360 swap?

Not a 360 but this I will remember seeing this trick for the first time and truly being amazed when watching a ski trick.
 
13655912:Titsandwich11 said:
so, what do you think-- are you the first person you knew of to do forward 2 pretz 2?

and if so, what made you think to do it? snowboarders?

i feel like its not that hard to imagine...
 
13656670:FriedRice said:
i feel like its not that hard to imagine...

what an insightful comment....

were you skiing park in 2002 and 2003? believe me, everyone was pretty fuckin impressed with the creativity and technical skill of this at the time. 270s on had literally just gotten somewhat common the year before. in 2001 a front swap would get woops and cheers from the lift

im simply asking if he saw another skier do it, saw a snowboarder do it, or just decided it'd be dope to try. im pretty sure we got the term pretzel from snowboarding, but they aren't as into them as skiers are (plus most pretzel tricks are a lot easier to do on skis)
 
13656679:Titsandwich11 said:
what an insightful comment....

were you skiing park in 2002 and 2003? believe me, everyone was pretty fuckin impressed with the creativity and technical skill of this at the time. 270s on had literally just gotten somewhat common the year before. in 2001 a front swap would get woops and cheers from the lift

im sorry, i guess i just dont see why he decided to pretzel as a mind blowing feat of man. I mean come on, if 2s on and off were being introduced it cant have been that hard to put 2 and 2 together (literally)
 
13656687:FriedRice said:
it cant have been that hard to put 2 and 2 together (literally)

ha, nice one

yeah no worries man. it's easy to look back and think it seems obvious, is all im saying. we were still being really impressed by 2ing onto rails. the edge control to stop that momentum and spin out the other way was not something taken for granted back then at all
 
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