Im with the others here! Come on Altarider, I hope your kidding too! last I checked, no matter how gangsta the park scene is... It mereley is a bunch of white boy rich kids and ski/board bums who try to emulate minority urban america.. acting as if its cool to be a gang banger criminal! (Personally I despise the gangsta vibe in the ski community, its a disgrace, and mockery to the real victims who are stuck in the inner city gang life, trying to make the best for themselves and their "bros") I respect that this public land is yor home turf, and you put in countless hours of build and maintenance! But are we not a brotherhood of riders with the common bond of enjoying the mointains, and exploring the backcountry? This is why we originally migrated into the pristine mountains decades ago..., to leave this urban, fast paced, hate your neighbor mentallity behind us! Dont be such a hater... If creedman wants to show up and talk shit in your face, then by all means stand up to him, but I read his first intent was only to ask how to get to chads! I m with you, I think 9.7 out of 10 people will shit their pants at the sight of it, but I dont see the need to hate on him and threaten him just for asking!