if its all shnitty on palmers then YALL should cruise down the mtn through hooodrivah and come to trout lake washington for the OKTOBERFEST one fmaily gatherinnggg all weekend long featuring shit tons of live music.. onprivate property so you can do as much illegal shit as you want if your underageor whatevs.. uhmm NIAYH crew,def kids, shltered kids.. lots of portland peeps and hippie lovin at the base of a volcano. itll be funsies!!