dave...
Active member
Ok, this is a quick rant that was caused by some kid today who came up to me looking for money. I've gotten tons and tons of people asking for sponsorship and stuff for the NS Movie as well as being a rep for Moment. Most people just send me pm's with a link to their footage! Do you guys really expect to get sponsored that easily? First off, I'm not sure why people are coming up to ask me for money when I don't even have any. The NS movie isn't about making money at this point, it's a member made movie, we're not here to be ultra lucrative.
Next thing, if you're looking for sponsorship, you need a sponsorship proposal. If you expect anybody to take you seriously, you better include a schedule, resume, photos and video with your proposal.
We are actively looking for sponsors for the NS movie, but I am preparing myself for the worst, which is not having any sponsors at all and having to do it again with no budget. Of course if a bit of budget comes in, we'll have money to do some cool stuff, but please don't message me asking for me to pay for you gas money!
If you're new to the industry, get ready to be shutdown a lot. Don't come in to the ski undustry looking to make a shitload of money, cuz you won't. Come work in this industry because of your love and passion for skiing, not the green.
Below is a message exchange between me and some guy, i simply couldn't believe what he was asking of me! it's been slightly edited to keep it relevant and to keep his name out of it.
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Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 12:09:49 - (not read)
dave...$ --> randomdude
lol, it's not that i don't believe you, I worked in NZ and I had to have an edit everyday for the company I worked for, it's just i don't understand why you're coming to me asking for money and sponsorship when you don't want to take part in the NS movie...if you're gonna survive in this business, you're gonna have to learn that no one is going to give you money on a whim, make the edits, then show them what you got, I've been in this industry for the past 5 years and it took me a long time to get where I am now, don't expect to get paid/make money in your first year of production, the ski industry is not a lucrative one, you have to be in it because you love skiing, not for the money
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 12:04:32 - (read)
randomdude --> dave...$
well than fuck that, all i need is my site and the video section, i dont think you fully understand what im purposeing, ill talk to him, whats his email, oh and check the vid section if you dont believe i can make an edit a week
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 12:02:12 - (read)
dave...$ --> randomdude
no, you gotta email him, don't pm him, he gets about 200 pm's a day and will not answer you, so just email him, and i suggest that you have a full sponsorship proposal to show him, also, if you want him to feature stuff on the site, he's going to ask you for money
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:58:20 - (read)
randomdude --> dave...$
oh you dont, shit i thought you were bishop for some dumbass reason, my bad. can you forward this to him by ne chance?
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:55:24 - (read)
dave...$ --> randomdude
ok, i don't mean to be discouraging, but like I don't work for Ns, you need to speak to them directly
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:51:06 - (read)
randomdude --> dave...$
its cool, ill find the money somewhere, i can hustle alot of money through basketball if i absolutly need to
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:50:30 - (read)
dave...$ --> randomdude
i highly doubt that will happen...sorry dude
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:48:47 - (read)
randomdude --> dave...$
im doing my own projects this year, NOONE else is getting ne of our footage, i already have 2 edits made with urban and mtn footage, fresh snow too, jibbing rails urban in oct 12th. what im saying is we will make a movie segment every week and post it then as opposed to makign a big one at the end of the year, and if u add up how many weeks versus segments it will be its actually liek sponsorsing 5 movies, we will film a large variety, but yo it sup to you, no money no sponsor i can ask other who have it. good luck with ur project tho, ill prolly just post this elswhere on our site
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:44:52 - (read)
dave...$ --> randomdude
k, but the thing is, it's going to be a contest, just like volume 1, so why would I give you money to make a bunch of edits? i'm confused, like i haven't even unveiled the format of the movie for Volume 2 and you're asking me for money?
it's going to be contest just like the last one, so submit you're footage when we ask for it and if it's good, then people will vote for it, i can't be giving out money to random filmers and editors when I don't even have a budget...
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:42:51 - (read)
randomdude --> dave...$
well if at some point in time throughout the year you think you coudl help us out with gas money than thats good enough for me
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:39:13 - (read)
randomdude --> dave...$
idk i dont care much about the "nsmovie" or whatever, i could just make my own if i really wanted to
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:38:12 - (read)
randomdude --> dave...$
this way people dont have to wait to see this years footage either.
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:36:41 - (read)
randomdude --> dave...$
i dont need much just if someone could cover travle funds id do all of it just for fun. like for example this weekend we woudl film at a basin and require probably in the 50 - 100 range, but ill put alot of time into the edit, im minoring in film, majoring in psych and physical training. so i think ill have the edits under controll pretty well. im gonna contrast the style of basketball compared to skiing in the first edit.
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:36:15 - (read)
dave...$ --> randomdude
uhmmm...well i don't have any money lol, and neither does NS, so anything you do would be without compensation...I didn't get paid to do vol 1, so unless we pick up a big sponsor, there won't be any cash, and even if we do get a sponsor, most of the money will go into production costs, not expenses for filmers...
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:28:39 - (read)
randomdude --> dave...$
i could do that too, but if i got money to travle to summit every weekend and ski Crested butte and backcountry all week then i could make an edit every weekend with a variety of riders skiing urban,backcountry,park, and whatever else we find. i could do an article or whatever, my ideas are bounced off dude1 and dude2 idea accept im ready to start this week
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:26:48 - (read)
dave...$ --> randomdude
well i'm not sure quite sure what you're asking me then, you want to make an edit for the NS movie vol 2?
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:23:54 - (read)
randomdude --> dave...$
do you know anyone that might possibly help us out. if they dont like our shit they will deff know within a few weeks, i can handle an edit a week atleast easily, ive made so many
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:21:54 - (read)
dave...$ --> randomdude
what?
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:15:40 - (read)
randomdude --> dave...$
i can make an edit for ns every week now if i can get sponsors and money and such, dvx quality good editing, good riders.
Next thing, if you're looking for sponsorship, you need a sponsorship proposal. If you expect anybody to take you seriously, you better include a schedule, resume, photos and video with your proposal.
We are actively looking for sponsors for the NS movie, but I am preparing myself for the worst, which is not having any sponsors at all and having to do it again with no budget. Of course if a bit of budget comes in, we'll have money to do some cool stuff, but please don't message me asking for me to pay for you gas money!
If you're new to the industry, get ready to be shutdown a lot. Don't come in to the ski undustry looking to make a shitload of money, cuz you won't. Come work in this industry because of your love and passion for skiing, not the green.
Below is a message exchange between me and some guy, i simply couldn't believe what he was asking of me! it's been slightly edited to keep it relevant and to keep his name out of it.
Read from Bottom to top.
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 12:09:49 - (not read)
dave...$ --> randomdude
lol, it's not that i don't believe you, I worked in NZ and I had to have an edit everyday for the company I worked for, it's just i don't understand why you're coming to me asking for money and sponsorship when you don't want to take part in the NS movie...if you're gonna survive in this business, you're gonna have to learn that no one is going to give you money on a whim, make the edits, then show them what you got, I've been in this industry for the past 5 years and it took me a long time to get where I am now, don't expect to get paid/make money in your first year of production, the ski industry is not a lucrative one, you have to be in it because you love skiing, not for the money
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 12:04:32 - (read)
randomdude --> dave...$
well than fuck that, all i need is my site and the video section, i dont think you fully understand what im purposeing, ill talk to him, whats his email, oh and check the vid section if you dont believe i can make an edit a week
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 12:02:12 - (read)
dave...$ --> randomdude
no, you gotta email him, don't pm him, he gets about 200 pm's a day and will not answer you, so just email him, and i suggest that you have a full sponsorship proposal to show him, also, if you want him to feature stuff on the site, he's going to ask you for money
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:58:20 - (read)
randomdude --> dave...$
oh you dont, shit i thought you were bishop for some dumbass reason, my bad. can you forward this to him by ne chance?
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:55:24 - (read)
dave...$ --> randomdude
ok, i don't mean to be discouraging, but like I don't work for Ns, you need to speak to them directly
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:51:06 - (read)
randomdude --> dave...$
its cool, ill find the money somewhere, i can hustle alot of money through basketball if i absolutly need to
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:50:30 - (read)
dave...$ --> randomdude
i highly doubt that will happen...sorry dude
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:48:47 - (read)
randomdude --> dave...$
im doing my own projects this year, NOONE else is getting ne of our footage, i already have 2 edits made with urban and mtn footage, fresh snow too, jibbing rails urban in oct 12th. what im saying is we will make a movie segment every week and post it then as opposed to makign a big one at the end of the year, and if u add up how many weeks versus segments it will be its actually liek sponsorsing 5 movies, we will film a large variety, but yo it sup to you, no money no sponsor i can ask other who have it. good luck with ur project tho, ill prolly just post this elswhere on our site
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:44:52 - (read)
dave...$ --> randomdude
k, but the thing is, it's going to be a contest, just like volume 1, so why would I give you money to make a bunch of edits? i'm confused, like i haven't even unveiled the format of the movie for Volume 2 and you're asking me for money?
it's going to be contest just like the last one, so submit you're footage when we ask for it and if it's good, then people will vote for it, i can't be giving out money to random filmers and editors when I don't even have a budget...
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:42:51 - (read)
randomdude --> dave...$
well if at some point in time throughout the year you think you coudl help us out with gas money than thats good enough for me
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:39:13 - (read)
randomdude --> dave...$
idk i dont care much about the "nsmovie" or whatever, i could just make my own if i really wanted to
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:38:12 - (read)
randomdude --> dave...$
this way people dont have to wait to see this years footage either.
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:36:41 - (read)
randomdude --> dave...$
i dont need much just if someone could cover travle funds id do all of it just for fun. like for example this weekend we woudl film at a basin and require probably in the 50 - 100 range, but ill put alot of time into the edit, im minoring in film, majoring in psych and physical training. so i think ill have the edits under controll pretty well. im gonna contrast the style of basketball compared to skiing in the first edit.
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:36:15 - (read)
dave...$ --> randomdude
uhmmm...well i don't have any money lol, and neither does NS, so anything you do would be without compensation...I didn't get paid to do vol 1, so unless we pick up a big sponsor, there won't be any cash, and even if we do get a sponsor, most of the money will go into production costs, not expenses for filmers...
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:28:39 - (read)
randomdude --> dave...$
i could do that too, but if i got money to travle to summit every weekend and ski Crested butte and backcountry all week then i could make an edit every weekend with a variety of riders skiing urban,backcountry,park, and whatever else we find. i could do an article or whatever, my ideas are bounced off dude1 and dude2 idea accept im ready to start this week
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:26:48 - (read)
dave...$ --> randomdude
well i'm not sure quite sure what you're asking me then, you want to make an edit for the NS movie vol 2?
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:23:54 - (read)
randomdude --> dave...$
do you know anyone that might possibly help us out. if they dont like our shit they will deff know within a few weeks, i can handle an edit a week atleast easily, ive made so many
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:21:54 - (read)
dave...$ --> randomdude
what?
Date Sent: Oct 27 2008 11:15:40 - (read)
randomdude --> dave...$
i can make an edit for ns every week now if i can get sponsors and money and such, dvx quality good editing, good riders.
