HOMOPHOBIA ON THIIS SITE

wow this is getting out of control. This arguement has some validitity left, but not too much. We all know(if you don't then you shouldn't argue in here), that when most people use the word 'gay' or 'fag' to describe someone or sometihng, they, as previously mentioned, do not use it in a literal sense. Furthermore, while there is no gay-bashing intended (also previously stated), there is some done unintentionally. This 'unintentional bashing of gays' is not truly homophobia, because it does not signify a hate,loathing, or even disgust for gays. It merely means, in most cases, that the user of the word has infact, merely been very mistaken in what word(s) to use to describe something. As said before, 'Gay' and stupid, or 'Fag', and idot are not connotations, but in todays society, as sad as it may be, they are not tied in a litteral sense, but by a different felling. To go back to what I was saying before, thsi unintentional 'bashing of gays', is not homophobia. Get it right, it is pure ignorance of the English language, and the lack of a vocabulary large enough to explain one's fellings and thoughts. In the future, when making posts of this nature, just use ignorance (once again) as a heading, not HMOPHOBIA!

Girls only want to date guys with good skills, like nunchuck skills, bowstaff skills, computer hacking skills...
 
when i said connotations, i meant synonyms

Girls only want to date guys with good skills, like nunchuck skills, bowstaff skills, computer hacking skills...
 
im not saying it isnt bad, im saying that its not homophobia, its ignorance of the english language, and the lack of a vocabulary sufficient to make one's point known with words that are used correctly. When someone says somebody else is 'gay', they usually don't mean it literally (atleast in my esperience), they say that because that is the most 'powerful' word they can think of. It, in the case of this threads originator, is not homophobia, its lack of vocabulary. I agree, its bad, and there are forms of homophobia, but this is not one of them. This is just stupidity

Girls only want to date guys with good skills, like nunchuck skills, bowstaff skills, computer hacking skills...
 
in my mind, it's okay to not like a gay person because they're gay because being a homo is a lifestyle choice. not liking someone for being a murder is the same thing, it's their lifestyle that you don't approve of.

Sheldon
 
k, couple things then im getting out of this post. to clarify, i think there are only very few (if any) people here that think when called 'gay' because of them doing something stupid, that the other person is actually believing they are homosexual. It should kinda go without saying that the person is simply trying to put the other down. Maybe saying stuff like that isn't expressing a lack of tolerance on your part directly, but simply the fact that the words have such conotations to begin with stems from such close mindedness. Imagine the sort of reaction to the following scene:

You and a pal are shopping (i am expecting to be called 'fag' or the like from this example, so lets say you're in a ski shop!)

So, you just decided to buy some _____(fill in dream ski of choice)____, and as you cary them to the checkout counter you stumble, trip, and the skis fall harmlessly to the ground. Then your friend laughs and says something like 'God, don't be such a clumsy ass nigger'.....

I would expect you would get some pretty interesting looks

And Don't tell me its different, cause its not!

 
god damn faggoty gay ass queers, they suck so damn bad they should all die. along with the sand niggers, and eskimos.

fat people should avoid buffets

 
homophobia is gay

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if you're not homophobic, then take being called faggot or gay as a good thing. i won't but do as you want. a word is as much what the guy who said it make of it, as what the guy who listen understands (wow, weird sentence!)

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Homophobes have greater tendencies of turning gay so if you think your cool by slamming gays then jsut think about that.

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how about get over it? Gay people dont ski, they are to busy pushing poo up each other's asses. I dont like gay people but i like skiing, i'm all for homophobia on NS because it makes my skiing world a whole better place

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im with skiski. you guys can be immature ass wads and call him gay becuz hes standing up for peole that happen to be attracted to the same sex. i also think its sad that people say things are 'gay' when reffering to something that is bad. hell i say it all the time, but every time i do i feel discriminatory, which i very much am not. homophobia is a growing problem, and again i agree with skiski, its just like racism was a huge problem in America not too long ago. just accept them and let them go on with their lives.

id rather be hated for who i am, then loved for who i am not-kurt cobain

**NWFT**
 
i tell people they ski like niggers all the time, its the ultimate dis

but seriously, its just an expression a word can mean a number of things based on the context in which its used. if i call you a fag, usually it doesnt even relate to homosexuality, its just a way of calling you an idiot, and no body really thinks that when i call a movie or something ga that i really think its a homosexual movie, because in that context it doesnt actually even have anything to do with that. i say gay, and fag all the time, but im in no way a homophobe,

in conclusion it may not be the best thing to do, but its not a big deal so shut the fuck up you fag

 
ok, here's my input; i would get just as creeped out if some ugly ass girl was hitting on me or gettin too close to me as I would if it was some guy. I mean, if you look at it like that, it's not necesarily an issue of prejudice, simply your rejection of unwanted attention. There is a difference between this and 'gay-bashing' however. 'Homophobes' may not want to be around a gay person, but most of them would never harm a person because he/she was gay. Simply not agreeing with the lifestyle should not be a problem because as much as it's a gay persons lifestyle of choice(and don't give me the 'it's not their choice stuff right now) to be gay, it's another persons choice to not approve of that life style.

 
dear ATLANTASKI until this thread i still had faith in your intelligence, even though you bought maede'n ak for urban rails, even though you pretend to know stuff about the industry, but now i cant believe that you can jave a shred of intelligence in your brain.

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fuck its their fault for acting like a faggot and being tormented, its especially their fault when they flaut the fact that theyre assreaming fucks to the worlds disgust, the only cool gay guy is my hairdresser

-ATLANTASKI
 
I would have to call you gay if you wernt a little freaked out by man on man. Just as it's natural for them to like men, its natural for us to be freaked by it. I don't like gay people, and its natural, I can't help it.

well thats pretty tough because my hand is a lot sexier than many females-NewSkool450

 
geniuses! all of you!

my two cents, its nothing like the civil rights struggle of the 60's. its really not. so dont compare them.

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When she places them in front of you

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The solemn warmth you feel inside

 
kld its not 'natural' to dislike gays. if it was then everyone on earth would be homophobic.

id rather be hated for who i am, then loved for who i am not-kurt cobain

**NWFT**
 
Yeah, the two are imcomparable. Black people are born black, and everyone can tell, and its not like its a bad thing, they are totaly normal, jsut a different color. Gay is a personality trait. People don't even have to know when a gay person is gay, unless the gay person feels they need to show their gay pride off and act like some gay people do. Gay people aren't normal, so it's not surprising that they don't have many friends. I don't have a big problem with a gay person that doesn't show it, its the fags that decide to have pride and act like they are someone special that get hate.

well thats pretty tough because my hand is a lot sexier than many females-NewSkool450

 
homosexuality is not a lifestyle choice, its a hormone thing. you think guys really want to be viewed as pervert freaks by society? its not like they woke up and said 'i want to be gay becuase its trendy and i think it would be fun'. so its no better than racial discrimination, becuase sexual orientation is not something you can control.

the Music Never Stopped...
 
I disagree, Anew. It's similar in principle.

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KLD, you've distinguished yourself from the ignorant bigots on the site by making the argument of the intelligent bigot. Homosexuals are entitled to every last bit of 'pride' that heterosexuals are, and they have every right to show that openly and publicly. There is no definitive scientific evidence to show that homosexuality is or is not a produce of genetics, but it doesn't matter either way. If a person chooses to be homosexual, he or she has every right to be homosexual, even as a person who may be born homosexual has every right to be so. Furthermore, it's not up to you to decide how much pride a homosexual should or should not have. A gay man has as much of a right to be proud as you do as a proud heterosexual. Why is it that you don't have a problem with 'fags' as long as they don't show it? Get used to it. People are gay, always have been, always will be, and they don't give a damn about what you think about it. You can choose to hate them, or, if you sit down and think about it openly, you can realize that all people are different, and that's okay.

And what are you talking about when you say that 'gay people don't have many friends'? Every homosexual that I've had the pleasure to know as a friend (and I know many) has as many friends as anyone else. You know, I think if you'd be willing to accept the fact that a person can be homosexual and proud of it, that person would be more willing to be friends with you. After all, I don't choose friends who think that I am somehow inferior to them because of my 'personality trait.'

'Oh, he's very popular, Ed. The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, waistoids, dweebies, dickheads--they all adore him. They think he's a righteous dude.'
 
'People are gay and don't give a damn what you think about it.'

I disagree. They are always doing stuff like gay pride parades and gay pride weeks all over the place.

 
im not homophobic, and while i think alot of assholes are, at this point, calling someone gay, or calling them a faggot, has NOTHING to do with sexuality. when someone calls someone else gay, at this point, it is the same as calling them an asshole or a dumbass or stupid, and the intention has absolutly nothing to do with them loving other men. this may be offensive to some people who actually are gay, but honestly they need to lighten up and realize that in most situations, it doesnt have much to do with sexuality.

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^I understand where you are coming from there, and you are right, they do have the right to openly express their homosexuality. What I am saying is that when gay people do show it, and act it, they are asking for the things that happen to them. Not to say that what happens to them is right, because by no means is it right, but thats what people do, and when they choose to openly express themselves in that way, people are going to discriminate against them. Now that I think about it, I live in a small town, and have never really met a gay person, so maybe I am being simple minded. Its just that the whole idea of men being attracted to other men is just so......weird. I guess all my prejudices come from what I have seen in movies and such.

well thats pretty tough because my hand is a lot sexier than many females-NewSkool450

 
Oh, and on the original topic of this thread: I don't tolerate the use of 'gay' or 'fag' as a negative adjective no matter who uses it. If you argue that you don't mean it literally, why do you use it at all if not out of ignorance, hatred or fear? To call an inanimate object gay is obvious not literal; however, it obviously is equating the word gay with 'something that is bad/stupid/etc.' If you say that 'gay' in your vernacular means stupid or dumb, then what do you call homosexual 'gay' people? To say, 'he's gay' is implicitly implying that the person who is, in fact, gay is also stupid or dumb. On a general scale, I've found that anyone who uses the words 'gay' or 'fag' are idiots, or at best intelligent bigots.

'Oh, he's very popular, Ed. The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, waistoids, dweebies, dickheads--they all adore him. They think he's a righteous dude.'
 
^I cannot express the boundless sorrow that I feel owing to the fact that none of these people will take that to heart. I've tried. I've reasoned, pleaded, argued, lost my temper, even broken a guy's nose once. I've lost faith. These people are lost causes. The best thing that can be done is to shun them utterly, to villify them as social outcasts, so that the tide can turn. Maybe in the future, the homophobic will go the way of the KKK member... we can only hope.

While we're making generalizations, I should point out that I've known quite a few gay guys, and bisexuals (male and female), and I have never once met one who was an asshole. Meanwhile, pretty much every homophobic I've ever met has been a rather reprehensible individual, whatever other, more admirable qualities he or she might have. Interesting observation, really. Although there must certainly be gay jackasses, I haven't met them.

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kamikaze, you are prejudiced towards bigots it seems like, because you say 'or at best intellegent bigots.' You don't have to be pro gay to be intellegent. It's just a point of veiw. I don't think any less of you because you are pro homosexuality, and you shouldn't think any less of me for being against it.

well thats pretty tough because my hand is a lot sexier than many females-NewSkool450

 
Parkboy and KLD, why do you think that gay people feel the need to have parades and bolster gay pride? KLD, if an openly gay man is dragged to death behind a pickup truck, is it his fault because he was openly gay? Or was it the fault of the bigot who killed him because of it? Do you really want to defend hate crimes that way?

'Oh, he's very popular, Ed. The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, waistoids, dweebies, dickheads--they all adore him. They think he's a righteous dude.'
 
''What I am saying is that when gay people do show it, and act it, they are asking for the things that happen to them.''

This quote reminded me of a court case some years back, whereby a judge dismissed charges against a rapist (who had confessed) owing to extenuating circumstances. Those circumstances were that the woman was wearing a short skirt at the time, and, according to the judge, 'she was asking for it'.

True story. It, and you, sicken me.

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JD, you are also making a generalization. I don't consider myself an asshole, I normally try to be a nice guy. Its not gay people that I don't like, it's the concept of what being gay is I guess. Not everyone that is against gay people is filled with hate for them.

well thats pretty tough because my hand is a lot sexier than many females-NewSkool450

 
It doesn't bother me if they just act like normal people but there is a gay guy at my gym and he wears really short shorts without underwear and does all these leg stretches on the floor purposely letting his nutsack hang out everytime wtf?

 
that short skirt story is shit, since rape has absolutely nothing to do with horniness, believe it or not, but more to do with the fact that its a dominance thing. Think about it, a horny guy would masturbate in a mcdonalds restroom with crackheads banging on the doors, not rape somebody.

IT'S JUST TRASH BLOWING IN THE WIND!!! DO YOU HAVE ANY CLUE HOW COMPLICATED YOUR CIRCULATORY SYSTEM IS?!!?!?!?!?!-god

The czechs and hungarians have a navy; they dont have a port, a ship or even access to water, but they do have a building.
 
I realize I was making a generalization. That, of course, would be why I began that paragraph with 'While we're making generalizations...'

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KLD, as far as rights are concerned, I think I have the right to think less of you for anything, and you have the same right. I'm a fan of freedom of speech, and yes, I am prejudiced towards bigots. I try to see things from everyone's point of view, and I agree most with people who do the same thing.

'Oh, he's very popular, Ed. The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, waistoids, dweebies, dickheads--they all adore him. They think he's a righteous dude.'
 
To Kamikaze, no that is not right that things like that happen. And to JD, did anywhere I say that it is ok for that to happen? No, I didn't. I said thats what will happen, and it is the truth. There are people out there that are so anti gay that they will hurt and kill people that are willing to show their gay pride. Are you ttrying to tell me thats not happening? Because it defenently is. I want to make it clear that I don't agree with it.

well thats pretty tough because my hand is a lot sexier than many females-NewSkool450

 
well JD, all generalizations are false.

What right does anybody have, to judge other people based on what they believed in? It is forcing your beliefs on others, and if the god you really worshipped really existed, why would he have an imperfect being scramble, destroy, and fanaticize his words?

IT'S JUST TRASH BLOWING IN THE WIND!!! DO YOU HAVE ANY CLUE HOW COMPLICATED YOUR CIRCULATORY SYSTEM IS?!!?!?!?!?!-god

The czechs and hungarians have a navy; they dont have a port, a ship or even access to water, but they do have a building.
 
Parkboy, it sounds to me like that's something that anyone could do, regardless of their sexuality. Some homosexuals flaunt it, and I don't agree with that reinforcement of stereotypes, because the vast majority of homosexuals are absolutely normal people just like you and me. I think you'd agree that heterosexuals are in general a lot more indicative about sexuality than homosexuals- for example, holding hands with your girlfriend in the hall. Showing your balls in gym class isn't a trait of homosexuality- it's just a homosexual coming to terms with his own sexuality. And don't worry, gay guys don't want to get with heterosexuals any more than you want to get with them.

'Oh, he's very popular, Ed. The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, waistoids, dweebies, dickheads--they all adore him. They think he's a righteous dude.'
 
^Dude... what the hell are you talking about? God? Fanaticize his words? What words? I'm confused as hell here... are you sure you read my post, there, Pete? I actually wasn't so much making a generalization as implying one, really. In my experience, all the gay people I know are really, really nice people. All the homophobes are dicks. I find it, if nothing else, an interesting pattern.

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Meant for petek.

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And I’ll take my time

Here I am

And I’ll wait in line

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Always...
 
To Kamikaze, no that is not right that things like that happen. And to JD, did anywhere I say that it is ok for that to happen? No, I didn't. I said thats what will happen, and it is the truth. There are people out there that are so anti gay that they will hurt and kill people that are willing to show their gay pride. Are you ttrying to tell me thats not happening? Because it defenently is. I want to make it clear that I don't agree with it.

KLD, I'm glad you don't agree with that, and I never suspected that you did. However, I want to make clear that it should not be assumed that the REASON that these things happen are not because some people are openly homosexual, it's because some people hate and want to hurt homosexuals. Can we solve this problem by repressing all homosexuals? Yes. Can we solve this problem by educating that homosexuality is a normal and acceptable lifestyle? Yes. Which would you prefer?

'Oh, he's very popular, Ed. The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, waistoids, dweebies, dickheads--they all adore him. They think he's a righteous dude.'
 
Oops... unintentional double negative there.

'Oh, he's very popular, Ed. The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, waistoids, dweebies, dickheads--they all adore him. They think he's a righteous dude.'
 
yeah man, i just put in a joke about your generalization comment, thats about it. The rest was just my opinion on homophobia, and the religious implications behind it, it wasnt really a response to anything.

IT'S JUST TRASH BLOWING IN THE WIND!!! DO YOU HAVE ANY CLUE HOW COMPLICATED YOUR CIRCULATORY SYSTEM IS?!!?!?!?!?!-god

The czechs and hungarians have a navy; they dont have a port, a ship or even access to water, but they do have a building.
 
'Showing your balls in gym class isn't a trait of homosexuality- it's just a homosexual coming to terms with his own sexuality.'

Coming to terms with his own sexuality? Correct me if i'm wrong but isn't this indecent exposure and against the law? By the way it wasn't gym class it was at my work which is a gym.

 
You're right; and sorry for that gym class assumption. Nevertheless, don't hold that kid as representative of homosexuals in general, because he's not. Can we agree on that?

'Oh, he's very popular, Ed. The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, waistoids, dweebies, dickheads--they all adore him. They think he's a righteous dude.'
 
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