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Well, after 8 years in hockey, last 3 with the Red Wings, I’m moving on, retiring from the game. I’m sure I’ll miss it, but new opportunities ahead
 
14298102:spruitm said:
Well, after 8 years in hockey, last 3 with the Red Wings, I’m moving on, retiring from the game. I’m sure I’ll miss it, but new opportunities ahead

You were filming and doing a bunch of media production right?

Good luck into the future though! All the people I know who work in that field are all self-starters and are really driven to produce high-quality work. Sounds to me like you'll be great at wherever you choose to go next!
 
Fuccck those refs last night. Idk how they can miss the most blatant calls on Vegas but then penalize Montreal for random bullshit. Thank god for Carey Price
 
Not even done the 2nd period in a series tied 2-2 and the Vegas crowd is booing their own team? What shitty fans. Seriously, move that team to QC and they'll be sold out for the next decade even if they come in dead last every year.
 
14299276:corona said:
Not even done the 2nd period in a series tied 2-2 and the Vegas crowd is booing their own team? What shitty fans. Seriously, move that team to QC and they'll be sold out for the next decade even if they come in dead last every year.

First signs of adversity aka no Cup Final appearances since their inaugural season is starting to get to their fans lol. They're all from LA anyways and will go back to rooting for the Kings/Ducks whenever they get good again
 
I really dislike NHL rules. The puck over glass delay of game, non stop pointless “fights” for show.

So Barzal is able to cross check a guy in the face in a game that was beyond over, miss a period, get a fine that is 1/17th of what he makes per game, and then gets to come back and keep using his stick as a weapon? NHL is so pathetic.
 
14299848:Bdoobz said:
Vegas L. Let us rejoice.
14299850:SurfinCow said:
I am so glad they are done, thank god. if they made another cup final i would be so pissed

Fuck you both and especially fuck the Canadiens. I hate that team with every fiber of my being
 
WOOO HOO, fuck you Vegas, you deserve NOTHING. Once again, welcome to the NHL, may your hearts continue to break until you deserve something...

And, damn Montreal must be an absolute fucking party right now... first time they have been in it since 1993. I was FIVE, and Gretzky was playing against them.

Really hope the Isles can beat Tampa... would make for one of the coolest finals matchups ever, especially with the Isles playing their last year in the barn..
 
14299276:corona said:
Not even done the 2nd period in a series tied 2-2 and the Vegas crowd is booing their own team? What shitty fans. Seriously, move that team to QC and they'll be sold out for the next decade even if they come in dead last every year.

Vegas has the most entitled fans ever...

They jumped into the league, got lucky as fuck with their expansion draft and Florida gifting them talented players, and then went on a tear... so now their fans think the NHL is just casually winning every year...

I guarangoddamntee that as soon as they have some bad seasons and miss the playoffs, that stadium will be down to half capacity because so much of their whole thing right now is hype.
 
14297546:corona said:
Bummed MTL had a flukey run and made it to the semis. They honestly don't stand a chance against Vegas. Leafs or Jets both would have had a better shot at making the finals, and if there's one thing hockey fans can agree on it's fuck Vegas. A team that shouldn't exist in a city that shouldn't exist.

Still a fluke?
 
14299888:steezbox said:
Still a fluke?

I will answer for him lol.

To make it through 3 rounds of the stanley cup playoffs is no fluke... You might win a round one series on a fluke as a hot team or an odd mismatch, but you wont make it to the finals on a fluke. That just does not happen.

Montreal shut out Vegas on the power play entirely. in 6 games they scored zero power play goals. I don't even remember such a circumstance happening even in a series where one team dominated the other in a sweep.. Montreal's PK just plain stopped them, and often times was the team generating pressure - there should have at least been 1 or 2 shortys for Mtl in this series, because they just plain out destroyed Vegas there.

Shutting a team out for an entire series with your PK is one way to absolutely win a series, and Montreal did just that. They won 2 of the overtime games as well as 2 games on the road. You cannot fluke that. And yeah, Vegas generally outshot them, but they ultimately had no answers for a team that limited good opportunities on net and has as solid a goaltender as Price.

Montreal is legit. If anything, Vegas is the fraud.
 
Montreals regular season record, not that it matters a whole lot now, wasn't the best either which is interesting. Reminds me of STL and their cup run a few years ago when they were in last place in the middle of Janurary or something like that. Good luck and god speed. Spoil the repeat for TBL.
 
14299946:DeebieSkeebies said:
Montreals regular season record, not that it matters a whole lot now, wasn't the best either which is interesting. Reminds me of STL and their cup run a few years ago when they were in last place in the middle of Janurary or something like that. Good luck and god speed. Spoil the repeat for TBL.

Take it from a Sharks fan... the regular season means fuckin nothing.

What matters for the playoffs is being healthy and prepared... you can win the presidents trophy, but if April comes around and youre missing key players or all of a sudden your guys are out of sync, you arent going to go too far.

That said, the best teams win despite being out of sync or missing key guys...

Montreal entered the playoffs missing a key player in Jonathan Drouin and were on a 5 game losing streak, then against Toronto they were down 3-1... not a good start...

But they then made whatever adjustments they needed (or maybe it was just because Toronto is Toronto) and they roared back to win the series and take that momentum through the next two rounds...

Sometimes thats how it works... either teams ride a wave of momentum all the way to the cup or teams make the adjustments they need to at the right time and everything clicks. I have seen it happen time and time again in this sport.

Kings in 2012 won as an 8 seed and just bulldozed everyone they faced.. they lost only 4 games all the way to the cup...

Same year, the Devils were playing the Panthers in the first round and having all sorts of trouble.. down 2-1 and then 3-2, they won a couple overtime games, and then rode the wave till the finals...

(but then because Paul DeBoer sucks, Didnt make any real adjustments and his team got completely flattened by the kings lol)
 
people are gonna say COVID cups didn't count but if the bolts pull it off on Monday, you gotta give them credit at least.....They've been a contender for a long while even before COVID, like Stevie Y and their management built a tremendous team thats gotta get blown up this off season. watch Seattle get some studs for their first year.

**This post was edited on Jul 4th 2021 at 1:06:17pm
 
Why wouldnt it count? The playoffs were pretty much the same as usual - albeit, Montreal doesnt have quite the home arena advantage, but it got them this far, so what gives?

Tampa Bay has played crazy good hockey. both this year and last year in the bubble. Doesnt matter the circumstances, you still have to win hockey games.
 
14299888:steezbox said:
Still a fluke?

Yup. They put together an impressive 13 game run and are now right back to where they were in the regular season and are far outclassed in the finals. They're still a mediocre team that had a good stretch at the right time. Worse teams have had longer streaks so 13 games is not unheard of.
 
14302064:corona said:
Yup. They put together an impressive 13 game run and are now right back to where they were in the regular season and are far outclassed in the finals. They're still a mediocre team that had a good stretch at the right time. Worse teams have had longer streaks so 13 games is not unheard of.

I love that you waited to reply until this point. Go work for Sportsnet.
 
14302064:corona said:
Yup. They put together an impressive 13 game run and are now right back to where they were in the regular season and are far outclassed in the finals. They're still a mediocre team that had a good stretch at the right time. Worse teams have had longer streaks so 13 games is not unheard of.

Sorry dude. You don't fluke your way into the Stanley Cup finals. Getting punched in the dick by Tampa was always the threat any team who faced them Could have saw. There is no shame losing to a team that is that talented. Getting to the cup is always going to require some luck.. but you cannot ride it for 3 rounds.

You might as well call Vegas a fluke in 2018 for getting trashed by Washington... or Nashville in 2017 when Pittsburgh just ruined them...

This reminds me of the 96 finals... when (Quebec built a fucking powerhouse only to see it stolen by) Colorado, who just came in and swept Florida - a team nobody really saw as a serious title threat - but then they beat the best two teams in their conference as well as Raymond Borque on their way to the finals...
 
14302205:DingoSean said:
Sorry dude. You don't fluke your way into the Stanley Cup finals. Getting punched in the dick by Tampa was always the threat any team who faced them Could have saw. There is no shame losing to a team that is that talented. Getting to the cup is always going to require some luck.. but you cannot ride it for 3 rounds.

You might as well call Vegas a fluke in 2018 for getting trashed by Washington... or Nashville in 2017 when Pittsburgh just ruined them...

This reminds me of the 96 finals... when (Quebec built a fucking powerhouse only to see it stolen by) Colorado, who just came in and swept Florida - a team nobody really saw as a serious title threat - but then they beat the best two teams in their conference as well as Raymond Borque on their way to the finals...

How u watching things from the J-land
 
Not even mad if Habs lose now. Fuck that was an incredible game.

Reverse sweep incoming tho, jinxed by the Mayor of Tampa.
 
14302296:-arc- said:
Not even mad if Habs lose now. Fuck that was an incredible game.

Reverse sweep incoming tho, jinxed by the Mayor of Tampa.

If a reverse sweep happened right now, that would be the most 2021 shit ever.
 
14302297:DingoSean said:
If a reverse sweep happened right now, that would be the most 2021 shit ever.

I've already put $10 on Montreal to win the next game. Figured it's worth it if they win.
 
14302205:DingoSean said:
Sorry dude. You don't fluke your way into the Stanley Cup finals. Getting punched in the dick by Tampa was always the threat any team who faced them Could have saw. There is no shame losing to a team that is that talented. Getting to the cup is always going to require some luck.. but you cannot ride it for 3 rounds.

You might as well call Vegas a fluke in 2018 for getting trashed by Washington... or Nashville in 2017 when Pittsburgh just ruined them...

This reminds me of the 96 finals... when (Quebec built a fucking powerhouse only to see it stolen by) Colorado, who just came in and swept Florida - a team nobody really saw as a serious title threat - but then they beat the best two teams in their conference as well as Raymond Borque on their way to the finals...

My issue with this argument is if they're such an amazing team, why were they barely mediocre during the regular season? It's not like they turned it around halfway through the season and starting playing amazing after a shit start (like Columbus), they were just consistently not that great.

If they come out as a dominant team through the regular season next year, then sure, they managed to get all the gears working at the exact right time and miraculously turned into a great team. If they go back to being in the middle/bottom of the pack then absolutely this was 100% a fluke run. Honestly a dozen good games in a row isn't unheard of. Remember the Sens not that long ago? By no means a good team and no chance in hell at making the playoffs but they put together 20+ excellent games in a row and squeaked in. It happens. It's hockey.
 
14302357:corona said:
My issue with this argument is if they're such an amazing team, why were they barely mediocre during the regular season? It's not like they turned it around halfway through the season and starting playing amazing after a shit start (like Columbus), they were just consistently not that great.

If they come out as a dominant team through the regular season next year, then sure, they managed to get all the gears working at the exact right time and miraculously turned into a great team. If they go back to being in the middle/bottom of the pack then absolutely this was 100% a fluke run. Honestly a dozen good games in a row isn't unheard of. Remember the Sens not that long ago? By no means a good team and no chance in hell at making the playoffs but they put together 20+ excellent games in a row and squeaked in. It happens. It's hockey.

Well first of all, since when does the regular season mean jack-fuck-all once the playoffs start. It means nothing.

Not to mention, the season was shorter than normal, so the season means even less this year - but it did serve as a viable means of teams to jockey for position and to weed out the weaker squads.. whos to know if Montreal bumps up a few positions if you gave them an extra 26 games where they got to play outside of canada like on a normal year. I mean, combine January and March... they lost only 3 games in regulation during those two months combined. They had a shit April... but that was just one particularly bad month. They also had a TON of overtime losses... about half of which were with the backup goalie and some of those being shootouts that dont exist in playoff hockey.

They dont even need to be a top-regular season performer to make the playoffs again next year, much less be successful once there. Say they come back next year and get like a 6th or 7th seed and go out in the 1st or 2nd round... that still doesnt mean that they were a fluke this season. Might as well say that every team who makes the finals and then fails to win their division next year is a fluke... thats fuckin stupid. The Kings won 2 cups and went to the Conference finals over 3 years as an 8 seed a 5 seed, and a 6th seed and then didnt even qualify the next year. I guess they are a fluke because they failed to do particularly well during the season?

Winning a bunch of games during the regular season is one thing... any team can pull off a two week stretch when they are playing different teams most every night and everyone is traveling and just trying to stay healthy and rotating goaltenders and defensive pairings and shit... but to do it during the playoffs when you cant hold back for a second? When teams have figured out who they are as a team and bonded for months? when players are that much more hungry, the penalties are that much more crucial, and every shift means so much more? yeah its a big big difference man.

I mean just look... Vegas was tied for the league-most points, were coming off a series win against a presidents trophy winning Colorado who was half of everyones pick to win the cup... where they swept the last 4 games and were seen as a total shoe-in for the cup finals, and then Montreal went in and spanked them. They had no real answers for their PK units, or their defense as a whole, and they couldn't contain Montreal's playmakers. The fact that Montreal handed it so hard to Vegas in that series is all you need to know its not a fluke... not to mention coming back from 3-1 down against Toronto and then sweeping the Jets - which even if the Jets are just ok, is hard to do against anyone in the playoffs.

If the regular season meant anything at all, then Id be able to claim some shit as a Sharks fan... but I cant. Nor will I. If anything its a way to claim that your team is robust and stayed healthy, or has adequate depth, but none of that really helps you in the playoffs when you have to go to fucking WAR.

This series could easily be tied 2-2 at this point and we are talking about a whole other thing due to just one game. Montreal probably should have won game 2 with how they played and how much rubber they delivered to the net. Additionally, they outshot Tampa in games 2 and 3. Teams that are flukes don't usually find ways to outshoot their opponents during the playoffs. Also, did I mention Tampa is the defending champion and they are KINDA REALLY GOOD?

Im by no means a Habs fan. If anything I kinda dislike them overall as a franchise.. but they absolutely by all accounts deserve to be there, and are not just some team who went on a hot streak and then regressed to the mean all of a sudden. There has been no period during these playoffs where the clock totally struck midnight and they turned into a pumpkin like many other teams who got hot through a round or 2 and then fizzled hard once another team made the necessary adjustments.
 
14302412:DingoSean said:
Well first of all, since when does the regular season mean jack-fuck-all once the playoffs start. It means nothing.

Not to mention, the season was shorter than normal, so the season means even less this year - but it did serve as a viable means of teams to jockey for position and to weed out the weaker squads.. whos to know if Montreal bumps up a few positions if you gave them an extra 26 games where they got to play outside of canada like on a normal year. I mean, combine January and March... they lost only 3 games in regulation during those two months combined. They had a shit April... but that was just one particularly bad month. They also had a TON of overtime losses... about half of which were with the backup goalie and some of those being shootouts that dont exist in playoff hockey.

They dont even need to be a top-regular season performer to make the playoffs again next year, much less be successful once there. Say they come back next year and get like a 6th or 7th seed and go out in the 1st or 2nd round... that still doesnt mean that they were a fluke this season. Might as well say that every team who makes the finals and then fails to win their division next year is a fluke... thats fuckin stupid. The Kings won 2 cups and went to the Conference finals over 3 years as an 8 seed a 5 seed, and a 6th seed and then didnt even qualify the next year. I guess they are a fluke because they failed to do particularly well during the season?

Winning a bunch of games during the regular season is one thing... any team can pull off a two week stretch when they are playing different teams most every night and everyone is traveling and just trying to stay healthy and rotating goaltenders and defensive pairings and shit... but to do it during the playoffs when you cant hold back for a second? When teams have figured out who they are as a team and bonded for months? when players are that much more hungry, the penalties are that much more crucial, and every shift means so much more? yeah its a big big difference man.

I mean just look... Vegas was tied for the league-most points, were coming off a series win against a presidents trophy winning Colorado who was half of everyones pick to win the cup... where they swept the last 4 games and were seen as a total shoe-in for the cup finals, and then Montreal went in and spanked them. They had no real answers for their PK units, or their defense as a whole, and they couldn't contain Montreal's playmakers. The fact that Montreal handed it so hard to Vegas in that series is all you need to know its not a fluke... not to mention coming back from 3-1 down against Toronto and then sweeping the Jets - which even if the Jets are just ok, is hard to do against anyone in the playoffs.

If the regular season meant anything at all, then Id be able to claim some shit as a Sharks fan... but I cant. Nor will I. If anything its a way to claim that your team is robust and stayed healthy, or has adequate depth, but none of that really helps you in the playoffs when you have to go to fucking WAR.

This series could easily be tied 2-2 at this point and we are talking about a whole other thing due to just one game. Montreal probably should have won game 2 with how they played and how much rubber they delivered to the net. Additionally, they outshot Tampa in games 2 and 3. Teams that are flukes don't usually find ways to outshoot their opponents during the playoffs. Also, did I mention Tampa is the defending champion and they are KINDA REALLY GOOD?

Im by no means a Habs fan. If anything I kinda dislike them overall as a franchise.. but they absolutely by all accounts deserve to be there, and are not just some team who went on a hot streak and then regressed to the mean all of a sudden. There has been no period during these playoffs where the clock totally struck midnight and they turned into a pumpkin like many other teams who got hot through a round or 2 and then fizzled hard once another team made the necessary adjustments.

Fair enough, I'll concede, but still don't totally agree. I watched a large number of their games during the regular season and nothing about them stood out as being an all-star team. Especially considering I mostly watched their vs Ottawa games and even against the Sens they just didn't play like a team that could or deserved to make it to the finals. After watching them all season I just have a hard time buying that they aren't just having a really good run at the exact right time. I guess that's what the playoffs are all about and that's what makes them a good team. But they're certainly no 70's Habs.
 
Welp. There goes the 2nd season in a row the bracket I made at the start of the playoffs is nearly 100% wrong.

Here's to (hopefully) a real season and a better series next year!
 
14302656:Biffbarf said:
Welp. There goes the 2nd season in a row the bracket I made at the start of the playoffs is nearly 100% wrong.

Here's to (hopefully) a real season and a better series next year!

lol i might give up, been trying for like 4 years at this point and i just keep getting worse at guessing matchups

also kraken stoke has officially begun. can't wait to go to games in seattle
 
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