Hey Patriots. Your cheaters.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/13/specter-belichick-was-ta_n_86572.html

WASHINGTON — Bill Belichick has been illegally taping opponents'

defensive signals since he became the New England Patriots' coach in

2000, according to Sen. Arlen Specter, who said NFL commissioner Roger

Goodell told him that during a meeting Wednesday.

"There was confirmation that there has been taping since 2000, when Coach Belichick took over," Specter said.

Specter

said Goodell gave him that information during the 1-hour, 40-minute

meeting, which was requested by Specter so the commissioner could

explain his reasons for destroying the Spygate tapes and notes.

"There were a great many questions answered by Commissioner

Goodell," Specter, the senior Republican on the Senate Judiciary

Committee, told reporters after the meeting. "I found a lot of

questions unanswerable because of the tapes and notes had been

destroyed."

Goodell said Belichick told him he believed the taping was legal; Goodell said he did not concur.

"He said that's always been his interpretation since he's been the

head coach," the commissioner said. "We are going to agree to disagree

on the facts."

Specter, from Pennsylvania, wants to talk to other league officials

about what exactly was taped and which games may have been compromised.

"We have a right to have honest football games," he said.

Goodell noted that "we were the ones that disclosed" the Patriots'

illegal taping of the New York Jets' defensive signals in Week 1 of

last season. Further, Goodell said, they had an admission by Belichick.

"I have nothing to hide," Goodell said.

Goodell also told Specter that that he doesn't regret destroying the Spygate tapes or the notes.

"I think it was the right thing to do," Goodell said.

Still, Specter wants to know why penalties were imposed on Belichick

before the full extent of the wrongdoing was known and the tapes

destroyed in a two-week span. Asked if he thinks there was a coverup,

Specter demurred.

"There was an enormous amount of haste," Specter said.

He scoffed at the reasons Goodell gave for destroying the tapes and

notes, particularly about trying to keep them out of competitors' hands

and because Belichick had admitted to the taping.

"What's that got to do with it? There's an admission of guilt, you

preserve the evidence," Specter said. As for keeping the tapes out of

the hands of others: "All you have to do is lock up the tapes."

Belichick was fined $500,000 and the team was fined $250,000 because

of the Spygate incident. The Patriots also forfeited a first-round

draft pick.

Specter has questioned the quality of the NFL's investigation into

the matter and raised the possibility of congressional hearings if he

wasn't satisfied with Goodell's answers. Specter also raised the threat

of Congress canceling the league's antitrust exemption and reiterated

that in the meeting with Goodell.

Goodell also said he has not heard from Matt Walsh, the former

Patriots employee who performed some videotaping duties for the team.

Walsh told The Associated Press last week during the Pro Bowl in

Hawaii that he couldn't talk about allegations that he taped a

walkthrough practice by the St. Louis Rams before the 2002 Super Bowl.

New England, a two-touchdown underdog, won that game 20-17.

Goodell said he has offered Walsh a deal whereby "he has to tell the

truth and he has to return anything he took improperly" in return for

indemnity. Specter said he, too, wanted to talk to Walsh and perhaps

offer a different deal.

Goodell also said he reserves the right to reopen the investigation if more information is uncovered.
 
im not a sore loser, yes the pats cheated, but shouldnt congress be doing something more worthwhile than steriods in baseball and spygate? like trying to fix the economy
 
we all pretty much knew this. i mean the rams superbowl game scandal was brought up the day of this years superbowl. really not that surprising
 
It seems to me that it's common practice in football. Not exactly ground breaking news.

Also, good job America. All your sports are a fucking joke and riddled with scandals.

I'll stick to footy (soccer) and hockey thank you very much...
 
youre hating on american sports for being scandulous and then say youre going to stick to soccer? hello.... Italian match fixing ring a bell?
 
did the pats win every game since he started taping? no. they won using talent and lost with the lack of. i doubt this had made the decision of any game.
 
...so have other teams in the NFL. The Jets coach just acted like a bitch and told on them...sore loser. You shoulda cheated too like every other team in the NFL if you wanted to be successful.
 
then why would they do it, risking a first round draft pick and a bunch of money, not to mention a loss of credibility and a huge ammount of bad press. And dont even try to say that you buy that bullshit that bellicheck said that he thought it was legal.
 
Seriously, most teams do the same thing, and the only reason the Pats got caught is because one of our former coaches Eric Mangina is a huge fucking bitch and a sore looser. What most people don't know is that the Patriots caught the Jets doing the same thing the year before, they had a guy in the stands taping the game. Belichick chose not to do anything about it because he isn't a huge dick. This is bullshit, just more on and forget about it. We lost the superbowl, what more justice could you possibly fucking want? The only reason people hate on the Patriots is because we're better than whatever shitty team you support.
 
yeah, the giants are a shitty franchise. I'd be blown away if they make it back to the superbowl in the next five years, the best they can look forward to is being a mediocre team, just like the rest of the NFL. All the teams that make it to the superbowl have a good run in the second half of the season and a bit of luck. After the season they go back to being an average team. Just look at all the past superbowl teams, none of them have been consistently good. The only exceptions are the Patriots and Colts, who both are in a league of their own compared to the rest of the NFL.

I can't wait till the giants go 7-9 next year and don't even make the play offs, so all the NY bandwagon hoppers can shut the fuck up.
 
tom brady is a douche and the patriots are cheaters.

Patriots = Negative respect points

i dont really like the mannings but i have a lot of respect for them
 
Yo anyone that is saying this is old news its not.
That article really isnt about the Pats cheating.
The whole spygate incident is being brought up again, because everyone wants to know why the tapes were destroyed and thats what this article is about. Thats why he posted it, and that article is prolly from today or yesterday.
Just thought i would clear that up with everyone and stuff.
 
Ummmm... I'd call a coach who leaves the field before the game and pushes the ref out of the way when he tries to shake his hand a big dick. And a sore loser bitch.
 
The best game ever was that first raiders-pats game in 2001... I was in a shittty ass motel like an hour from jay peak with a bunch of dudes from the bay area... one of them cried. i wonder why they weren't at tahoe... anyway there was decent pow the next day too.

You can take away the trophies but the fans still have the memories. good times....
 
The Pats beat you because your team sucks, get over it.

We just got caught video taping, you fucks really think other teams aren't doing it? Our foreign friend is right, American sports are fucked.

Viva la Hockey
 
Other people doing it doesn't make it alright. They cheated this year, I think thats completely bogus. Bill is a fucking little bitch, between cheating and leaving the Superbowl early the guy seems like a real winner.
 
to bad Matt Damon and his little patriots lost. And to all pats fans out there, you lost. theres nothing you can say or do to change it. theres nothing you can do to justify being the best franchise ever. because uhhh you cheated and got stomped in the super bowl. bo hoo go kill yourself
 
you take your hate for other teams wayyyy too far and just to let you know the giants have made the playoffs 3 years in a row and if they continue to have good defense and eli continues to play good then that wont change for a while
 
Oie! I'll admit, I totally forgot about that one (maybe cause I don't really care for Serie A). And yes, FIFA and many of the FA's are run by crooks; but still footy has a much cleaner image in general. It isn't called the world game for no reason.
 
It's called the world game because everyone in the world plays it. Not because it's cleaner. I remember some pretty nasty games in Kaiserslautern, and that isn't even a huge team. The fans can be viscious. At least football games are clean. I'm a Man U fan (since I lived there before Germany), but I still can't believe how Eric Cantona acted. He was good, but Jesus...he jumped into the crowd and drop kicked people.
 
that just means he doesnt takek shit from nyone. even fans. Its like zidane, he is jsut a beast
 
its not illegal to film. its strategy. know what your opponent is going to do before they do it makes you that much better against them. look at mixed martial artists and boxers. they go to an opponents fight and watch tapes of their fights to know what they do.
 
there is a difference because in football there is a rule against it, also it was play calls and play calls are meant to conceal the play being run and when you know what play is going to be run that is unfair. because just knowing a play is different from knowing when it comes.
 
Now that I think of it football may be more corrupt than I thought. Would explain how refs whistle for Man U all the time.

P.S. Cantona and Zidane were BAMFs!
 
this is true, congress is wasting thier time on things that dont matter at all when there is stuff out there that needs fixing. and for the "news" on the pats, i htink that came out in like the middle of the season.
 
Are you kidding me? Everyone wanted the giants to win because everyone hates the pats. You may now remove your ass's grip around the patriots shrinking dick.
 
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