HERE'S TO ALL OF YOU MIDWEST SKIERS

A few weeks ago someone told me something that made me want to speak up. They told me that I come off to people as a “liar” when it comes to skiing, because “people talk about that kind of stuff. “ As in, people think that because I am a girl and from St. Louis, Misery there is no possible way I could be good at skiing. To have a fellow skier tell me that was a huge low blow on their part. Like dude, you must know nothing at all about what it means to be a skier.

So I wanted to write a little something for all of you Midwest skiers out there who get crap like this. The constant degradation of how you can’t be a “legit” skier if you aren’t from or live in a certain place is just absurd. And, it has kind of gotten to me. I don’t want to keep the ski-loving-freak side of myself, to myself anymore. I shouldn’t have to and neither should any of you.

See, the thing is I only really talk about skiing when someone asks, or recognizes something I say or watch or one of the random stickers I have on some random object of mine. I usually let people who want to talk about skiing come to me, because when you seek it out all you seem to find are wenches like the one mentioned in my intro paragraph. I mean, the conversations I enjoy most are the ones about some new Mutiny episode Stept just dropped, or the new batch of Saga gear, or how Andy Parry is a ridiculous supernatural freak with talent that everyone wishes they had. I guess I don’t really like telling people I am into skiing for the sole reason that most people don’t want to believe someone like me could be into a sport like this.

I grew up skiing down a 515-foot vertical drop ski resort about 30 minutes from my house in St. Louis. Hidden Valley. It isn’t much, but it’s something. In fact, it wasn’t until the end of high school that I realized how all this time this little place was a sort of haven to my skier friends and me.

As a kid, we would go to Hidden Valley every Friday night and on the weekends to ski or snowboard, and do whatever it is that middle school kids do for enjoyment. Man, it was (and still is) so much fun. I never once thought it was “weird” to be skiing or snowboarding in Missouri. But I guess some people do think that developing a passion for skiing having come from a really fun pretty cool small-ish ski resort is weird…

I always loved watching the older, “cooler,” kids slide on the big metal rails and boxes in the terrain park and do spins off of the “big” kickers. It always looked like so much fun and from the start I wanted to do that too. When I was about 13, I took the terrain park for a spin on a church ski trip to Sundown Mountain in Iowa. I tried the boxes first. It was easy!!! And more importantly, it was SO MUCH FUN. When I got back to Hidden Valley I quickly discovered the terrain park as my new favorite run to lap over and over and over again. I could not (and still can’t) get enough of it.

I tried spins and inverted jumps and grabs and spins off kink rails and man…park skiing is just too fun. Of course I am telling you this, but you already know it. But, I am a girl and from St. Louis, MO and that’s really all I know, park skiing. Everyone has his or her “thing.” Some kids grow up ski racing down huge mountains all over the western and the eastern parts of the country, or some will ski their entire lives and never touch a chairlift, and others will only ski when they decide a ski vacation suits them best. But not me. Not my friends. We have Hidden Valley, where we ski the crap out of four short months of rails that are made of rust and tetanus, and run-ins are about as wide as my wrist, and landings that look like the first 15 minutes of saving private Ryan. And for us, it’s just perfect.

The point of me writing this is to give a voice to all of those unlikely skiers out there. Whether you are male or female or gay or straight or whatever it is that you are, and whatever you do, just keep doing it with passion. Never let anyone tell you that you can’t do something. Never let those ignorant skiers talk about you as if you are a lesser person than you are.

Just take Nick Goepper for example. He is from a similar background as my Hidden Valley friends and me. However, that never stopped him. Not only is he an Olympic bronze medalist but one of my biggest idols, as well as a crucial part of innovation to the sport of freeskiing today. What if he had gotten discouraged and stopped skiing because some dumb kid told him he was making up the fact that he was able to ski really well? I do not really want to think about that because that would just be a terrible situation on its own, but you get the point.

So the next time someone tries to call you a “liar,” or ask you if, “you even ski bro?” just because you have gone against the grain of what is considered normal, remember that they don’t know the first thing about what it means to be a skier. Because nobody, nowhere, can kill your passion for something.
 
If somebody calls you a liar about something stupid tell them to fuck off. You don't need to prove anything to them.

As far as small mountains and parks that's something that get's me in the feels. I grew up on a small mountain and remember having the top of the only place you ski not be very tall or steep. The park is a great equalizer. Some of the smallest mountains could put in a little bit off effort and $ and end up with a banging park. It might not be 2 miles long and have 10+ massive jumps but they can get it done well enough for people to progress.

Especially the rail game. A mountain can drop a little $ on some features and set them up every year. You might not have powder to slay, or huge steeps and cliff drops or tree runs but there's always something new you can try in the park.

If you can do a trick on a rail at your mountain you can do that trick on a rail at another mountain. The vertical doesn't matter, the pow doesn't matter.

Hot laps in the park 4 lyfe
 
I'm confused why you're not a pink name. I hope you're not trolling or I'm about to look like an idiot.

On topic tho, I couldn't agree more. I'm from western New York and there's very little skiing here. People don't even pronounce saga and gaper right. Like that's how dumb this area is about skiing. So when I tell people I ski they ask the dumbest questions and make the dumbest assumptions.

I've gotten oh are you sure you can make it down this blue run? I told the guy no man I don't think so, and I pretended to struggle down the run and when I got to the bottom I was like let's go to the terrain park. He laughed really hard but then agreed. We went there and I showed him up bad. It was a pretty great feeling to say the least.

Girls at 500ft hills are uncommon. I'm the only girl at my hill to ski park and it seems like that's similar to your case. It's really cool to be able to say that but at the same time annoying to be doubted constantly. Keep doing you girl. Don't stop proving them wrong.
 
That's complete bullshit, I'm from STL and skied Hidden Valley almost my whole life before moving out west, I still miss their midnight skiing. Where you come from doesn't mean shit fuck the haters.
 
yoo ive skied at hv a couple of times visting family in stl. outlaw isnt that bad of a park and they expanded a ton from what it used to be. next time im there ill hit you up for sure
 
I've been skiing in Michigan since I was 9 (im 25 now), and in no way do I hate it. I've only been on "real mountains" 3 times in my life. But nothing beats shredding my home hill. It's all about what you want to do n how much fun you have doing it.
 
I find it funny when people hate on skiers from the Midwest, our shitty skiing conditions create some of the best skiers in the world. Take someone who learned to ski in the midwest out to a mountain with real snow and they will slay. Take someone who learned to ski on a big mountain and put them on a midwest ice rink of a hill and laugh as they struggle to get down it.
 
topic:brodiegato said:
As a kid, we would go to Hidden Valley every Friday night and on the weekends to ski or snowboard, and do whatever it is that middle school kids do for enjoyment. Man, it was (and still is) so much fun. I never once thought it was “weird” to be skiing or snowboarding in Missouri. But I guess some people do think that developing a passion for skiing having come from a really fun pretty cool small-ish ski resort is weird…

Yo, I'm also from STL. Shredded HV almost everyday last season.

Yeah screw the haters. HV has such a shitty stereotype in STL. Everyone thinks that it's horrible and isn't even worth paying for. Or that only rich kids go there... When in reality I can pay $35 for a lift ticket and can get more park laps in one day than you've ever seen.

Tow-rope in badlands next season is going to be badass.

13024574:ggfski42 said:
That's complete bullshit, I'm from STL and skied Hidden Valley almost my whole life before moving out west, I still miss their midnight skiing. Where you come from doesn't mean shit fuck the haters.

Some of the best nights of my life have been at HV's midnight sessions, right on.
 
13024714:TheWingmen said:
I find it funny when people hate on skiers from the Midwest, our shitty skiing conditions create some of the best skiers in the world. Take someone who learned to ski in the midwest out to a mountain with real snow and they will slay. Take someone who learned to ski on a big mountain and put them on a midwest ice rink of a hill and laugh as they struggle to get down it.

East coast and Midwest kids can't always make the biggest kickers but we can set up some really sweet rails and lap parks 5 times as fast.
 
I mean right now I ski at my local hill in Pennsylvania, about an hour drive. I say hill because its only 1230 feet tall. I have the time of my life there with my friends every weekend we go. Sure we don't have huge jumps like Breck, or a jib line up that you could spend the whole day hiking and hitting, but I have fun. To be a skier, I don't think it cares at all about your location. It is just long as you just love to ski. So fuck dem haters
 
13024458:shreddinthegnarr said:
I'm confused why you're not a pink name. I hope you're not trolling or I'm about to look like an idiot.

On topic tho, I couldn't agree more. I'm from western New York and there's very little skiing here. People don't even pronounce saga and gaper right. Like that's how dumb this area is about skiing. So when I tell people I ski they ask the dumbest questions and make the dumbest assumptions.

I've gotten oh are you sure you can make it down this blue run? I told the guy no man I don't think so, and I pretended to struggle down the run and when I got to the bottom I was like let's go to the terrain park. He laughed really hard but then agreed. We went there and I showed him up bad. It was a pretty great feeling to say the least.

Girls at 500ft hills are uncommon. I'm the only girl at my hill to ski park and it seems like that's similar to your case. It's really cool to be able to say that but at the same time annoying to be doubted constantly. Keep doing you girl. Don't stop proving them wrong.

How do you pronounce saga? I usually call it say-ga but I hear a lot of people say it like sega, the game company.
 
13025003:MLJ said:
How do you pronounce saga? I usually call it say-ga but I hear a lot of people say it like sega, the game company.

Us buffalonians say say-ga. I thought that's why they had the first a capitalized so you'd say it like Ay but I'm probably wrong.

People around here also pronounce gaper wrong so there's that...
 
tl;dr

but you can have fun anywhere you ski. If you have a open mind anywhere that you skis can glide can be fun. Big air dave hucks his meat and still has fun in ohio.

I grew up on this and still would have fun riding it all day

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That's the most retarded thing ive ever heard, growing up in the Midwest makes most people better and progress in the park a shit ton. Never thought I'd see a thread from my hometown, I live in STL too and I skied HV like everyday last season

yo who the fuck are you? cause if you rode park at hidden valley I probly know you lol
 
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I'm from Chicago and I feel just like you. This ski area is called Wilmot Mountain and is about half an hour from my house. Lets get this clear, it has a 190 foot vertical, 190! The longest lift has seven towers. The most ridiculous fact is that this used to be a land fill. Yet, this is where I ski most of my season. It may seem crazy, but this place has a great park. Of course there's no half pipe or massive kickers, but there are plenty of rails and two 20-25 jumps (it's all they can fit top to bottom). But that is what midwest skiing is. The area doesn't and never will have huge verticals or 2 mile long parks, and we recognize that it isn't great but still ski. We ski despite the bad conditions because we love it and try to make something out of nothing. And isn't skiing about having fun? So why does it matter if you live at the base of some huge ski resort or where I do now, as long as you are having fun, you are skiing as much as anyone else is.
 
13024595:gin said:
yoo ive skied at hv a couple of times visting family in stl. outlaw isnt that bad of a park and they expanded a ton from what it used to be. next time im there ill hit you up for sure

Honestly the only person that's ever poked fun at me from being from the midwest was your 'friend.' Or whoever that was talking to me. Saying that I shouldn't have an NS account because I live 2,000 miles from a real mountain. Even though it wasn't you that still pissed me off.

Right on OP! Who cares where you're from, we're all doing the same thing.
 
Hidden Valley represent right here. on fridays id go up there right after school and me and my friends would rip the shit out of their 13 runs and 2 terrain parks for about 9 hours straight. i know every run, cutout, and feature like the back of my hand. People from other places would go there and not think anything of it, but that place is where i live. i straight up live 5-10 minutes away from there and could not be more satisfied with the place
 
just watched the first dub cork 10 (on snowboard) by a girl on unofficial, she's a 16 year old from freakin england. skiing/snowboarding skill comes from all over
 
I thought this thread was a joke... Everybody knows that the best skiers come from Colorado only. Like look at the top pros in the world right now nick geopper, tom wallisch, mike hornbeck, Steve stepp, nick martini, clayton Vila they all grew up in Colorado
 
13025644:CalvinStork said:
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Grand Geneva, of Lake Geneva WI. Repping the worlds shortest chairlift in both length and time.

Damn that's rough. I rode a hill for a few years like that. Something about it being so open without trees makes it look even smaller though.

They should give a discount for season passes if you add a few buckets of dirt to the top.
 
13025660:theabortionator said:
Damn that's rough. I rode a hill for a few years like that. Something about it being so open without trees makes it look even smaller though.

They should give a discount for season passes if you add a few buckets of dirt to the top.

550$ season pass....
 
13024458:shreddinthegnarr said:
People don't even pronounce saga and gaper right.

You have no idea how common this is everywhere. Its an actual word. Used a lot in popular culture. It's almost comical.
 
13025689:Saga. said:
You have no idea how common this is everywhere. Its an actual word. Used a lot in popular culture. It's almost comical.

I've really never heard anyone mispronounce saga. What the hell do they say?

I mean ODB in triumph. "the SAGA continues wutang wutang"

Errbody always talks about the wu on here. Is nobody out in these streets bumpin it? Come on yall. Get some new tunes in your life.
 
13025502:dun.Can said:
I thought this thread was a joke... Everybody knows that the best skiers come from Colorado only. Like look at the top pros in the world right now nick geopper, tom wallisch, mike hornbeck, Steve stepp, nick martini, clayton Vila they all grew up in Colorado

Tom Wallisch is from Pittsburgh you numb nut.
 
13025725:theabortionator said:
I've really never heard anyone mispronounce saga. What the hell do they say?

I mean ODB in triumph. "the SAGA continues wutang wutang"

Errbody always talks about the wu on here. Is nobody out in these streets bumpin it? Come on yall. Get some new tunes in your life.

Usually they say "Is it Say Gah". Or "So what does Saga stand for". SMH
 
i lived in MN three or four years ago, fuck welsh village, but shout out to all the homies tearing up afton, and spirit, good times, and tow ropes, most fun park laps you'll ever have
 
I grew up riding ski round top, PA. You know who else is from there? None other than Steve Stepp. I guess what I'm trying to say is, do we have pow, tree skiing, cliffs, amazing parks? No but we have a fun, dedicated park crew who make the best of what we get and it's awesome. I always complain that I had never been to Colorado until this winter but the Beast Coast is the best.

Tl;dr

East coast makes the best of what we have, that's why we're so passionate about skiing
 
I am from the Midwest and have never been told that I'm not a "legit skier" because of it. Someone would have to be pretty ignorant to think that considering we ride on some of the hardest on piste terrain (ice ect.).
 
13025748:Saga. said:
Usually they say "Is it Say Gah". Or "So what does Saga stand for". SMH

Lol really? I was trying to be ridiculous on my pronunciation earlier in the thread. Literally never heard anyone say it wrong.

There should be a pronunciation check online. Pay extra if you can't pronounce it.
 
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I think growing up skiing in the midwest creates a special kind of skier. I think that because we don't have big mountains with perfect parks we develop a more complex love of the sport. And I'm not saying other people from other places don't love it the same way, I just think its a little bit easier for us to experience that type of passion. I grew up on a hill with a 250-300 ft vertical and now I'm moving out to CO in a few months for school, joining the ski team and I just feel blessed because its like a dream come true, and I'm proud to call dinky little Nordic Mountain home. I was talking to the coach and he loves when people from the midwest join the team because they are all always so dedicated and work really hard to progress and succeed.

Thats just my two cents.
 
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