Henriks dew tour runs

i just think its really g that henrik just dropped in and commented on a thread discussing his own stuff, i have barely seen that on ns
 
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Sorry that im recognizing how good his run was? i wouldn't consider anything i said as "cock riding" because he had a sick run, im not talking it up im not over exaggerating to make him look better, im not saying hes the best ever OMG SOO FUCKING GOOD like other shit head kids do about other skiers like bobby or tom.
 
This is some funny shit....everyone so critical and serious on the internet...
but on the reals henriks run was legit as fuck....nothing about his riding is generic which sadly doesn't win comps....but he was sending his jumps way bigger oozing with style....All skiers at that level are throwing insane runs, and im stoked on watching everyone, but dayum, henrik definitely should have placed.
 
i think eheath is past the stage where he feels the need to ride pros dicks like some of you faggots, considering he films a lot of them quite regularly.
 
If you haven't noticed this happens in all sports and more a less all competition theres no avoiding. Im from Wanaka and i've had it since i was 10 when me and Beau Wells started competing. Seriously the more you bitch about the more of a name you get. You just gotta rise above it and throw down and lay it on them and if they're not willing to notice that fuck them. As long as you know your bossin thats all that matters.
 
I think to say NS has double standards is very wrong.

The way I see it Dumont gets up set cos he doesn't win, He'd be happy to do the gayest most lame ungrabbed doubles if it was was what it would take, all he cares about it the competition. In his competiton, he did the same style of tricks as everyone else, only not as good as Kevin Rolland did.

Henrik on the other hand wants different ways of making things difficult and varied to be appreciated, he did a genuinely difficult run, cleanly and was not rewarded as highly as those who did less difficult runs that included more common tricks.

Its my opinion that Judging does not take into account many aspects that make a run good. using rails instead of boxes, varying different grinds and grabs instead of only doing standard stand up straight grinds and mutes.

An other thing they do wrong imo is the difference between scoring a missed grab and not grabbing at all. If someone does not try to grab they do not deserve to be scored at all, yet they will get scored higher than someone who trys and misses. That's not what this aspect of skiing is about.
 
on an unrelated note, i was not a fan of kevin rollands winning run. although those double flairs are tough, they're ugly as shit
 
The thing is though the people who finished in top 5 all had everything you think makes up a good run (Good grabs, cleanly grabbed, varying grabs and unnatural/switch spins). So the judges did their job in that aspect and even if people are still throwing "standard" comp tricks they are still fucking hard. Just because every pro and their mom can do a dub 12 still doesn't make it easy. You guys pretend like just because a decent amount of people can do doubles that it somehow makes them easier and they should be scored lower. But who knows a double mute dub 12 may or may not be harder than a blunt bio 10 but that is the judges decision to make on who to score higher and 9/10 times they will choose the double because 2 corks are greater than 1.

Also I feel it would be pretty difficult for a judge to tell whether a competitor missed a grab or not considering how fast they really are spinning and it can seem like a blur sometime (unless they look at the MEGA MO replay screen).
 
The fact that lots of people do dub 12 mutes doesn't make them easier but it does make them boring. Doing tricks that nobody else does should be rewarded because it keeps the sport varied and more interesting to watch. If everyone does roughly the same tricks to gain a certain point score then all we have achieved is aerials.
Secondly the two corks is greater than one principle is pretty much what everyone is complaining about. Judging purely quantatively is what many people on here and presumably Henrik have a problem with.
It seems like the judges more or less ignored the rail section, style, creativity etc and counted the number of corks/flips on the jumps and then awarded scores accordingly.
 
First, good grabs? they all did the easiest grabs they could have done with those tricks and none of them did particularly hard rail tricks.

A double 12 mute might well be harder than a bio 10 tail, although I imagine there are about the same. The point is when you use the same technique on to create difficulty on every jump, it should lower the over all impression of the run. And also that tricks like the bio 10 tail aren't rewarded accordingly and the increased difficulty of doing different grabs with certain types of rotation is not taken into account. Furthermore doing difficult base tricks with the easiest grab possible seems to be rewarded disproportionately. This has lead to competitions seeming very standardised and most competitors doing very similar tricks.

Also the judges watch the runs on tv sets, they see what we see live on tv, I know I can see the missed grabs.
 
I still think a switch right side double is harder than a bio 10 blunt. But the bio 10 blunt looks cooler. The thing is if judges try to judge for style also than they all have different tastes of what they like. It just seems easier for judges to judge based on the difficulty of a trick rather than the style. Even though I think most of the doubles that the dudes throw look fucking sick but that is just me.

It is just hard to judge comps like that because everyone has a different taste and has different things they find styley and it is just more convenient for them to do it solely based of the amount of flips/spins (which sucks but that is just the way it works).

Also skiing with never become aerials so shut up and stop beating that dead horse.
 
haha you're just a grumpy guy. Creative, but grumpy.
On a related note, I don't like comps because I don't believe that tricks should be assigned scores. To me freestyle skiing is too subjective for such a practice. It would be the equivalent of trying to settle on scoring various paintings, it's impossible because different people have different tastes and prefer some works of art over others.
If I prefer a motionless zero spin over a double, whose to tell me that what I prefer is wrong?
inb4 someone tells me that what I prefer is wrong.
 
I dont think you're wrong. I think you will be proven right in the next 5 years when all comp skiers will be jocks and "freeskiing" will be reserved for people like B&E and traveling circus
 
Why not? Obviously it won't become identical to aerials, its a different event. But whats to stop slopestyle/pipe comp skiing becoming as detached from every day 'newschoolers' and as unrelateable to the general public. Its well on the way, the size of the features needed to do the biggest tricks is already beyond what 99.9% of us will ever get to ride. The reason aerials lost its following is just that, it became impossible to relate to for the average skier.
With Skateboarding (mega ramp excluded) I see a guy do a tech ledge trick or a big trick down some stairs and I know that if I go practise enough, I can find myself a ledge or stairs just like that and do the same trick. No extra money or sponsorship is needed, that keeps it relatable.
The same is true of parts of skiing. I could go hit urban rails and gaps in a dress like Stept/B&E (only jokey hate), I could do silly/cool stuff like Travelling Circus, I could even hit BC booters like Nimbus. But without the sponsors and the money, I can't just go and hit a 140 (or whatever it was) foot jump in Alaska and throw a triple flat, any more than I can go hit aerials style jumps and throw triple fulls. So why is it so very different?
 
I don't necessarily think Henrik's run should have podiumed, but I DO think it should have scored higher.

While maybe not as tech, his run had a lot of uniqueness to it.

He was the only skier to do any kind of press on a rail/box (and a very smooth disaster at that)

He grabbed a rodeo 10 with tail, and I don't think I've ever seen that before.

His switch dub rodeo rotation is WAY different then any of the other competitors. It looks sick I think.

His last hit on his 2nd run was HUGE. Like simon dumont take-it-all-the-way-to-the-parking-lot huge.

my .02
 
But is is harder than a right side bio 10? I still don't know what henriks actual run was but I do expect the one jump i don't know was right side and probably had a different or difficult grab. From what I've read his rails were at least twice as hard as bobbys.

I am not trying to argue for judging based on style, more variation and for different types of hard trick to be rewarded. Especially rail tricks and difficult grabs.

If it were to be based purely on the difficulty of the trick and that based on the number of spins and the number of axis' then that would be arials or moguls style scoring, different ways to make tricks harder or unique need to be taken into account as well as showing versatility through the coarse.

To use an old phrase there is more to slope style skiing than "spin to win."
 
^Usually skiers do rodeo not bio. Sorry for being wrong man but i haven't seen the run. by the way you should know more than 3 wu tang clan songs if your user name is wu tang clan. just saying
 
People calling rodeos bios are tech correct, if you just base on the rotation on the plane they are spinning on. However, what most people should look at is how the tricks are set, henrik sets his rodeo/bio 10, as a rodeo, therefore for the sake of argument we call it a rodeo.
Notice the differnce?
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WuTangClan why dont you get good before you wear 3 fucking jiberish pieces everytime you go skiing and stop hating. I accept i am wrong i though
 
cuz your a g. by the way i dont know if it was heavy mint but your ignant blue over somethng like that looked really good one day
 
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