Help with 2015 pipe cleaner

Dropbombs8

Dropbombs8

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Anyone used them or had last years? Want to know what you think and how they perform outside the park. Also how do they compare to skis similar to them? I ski around 50% park 50% all mountain so want something that can manage being off the groomers, also I like the alpha x.
 
Pipe Cleaner very comparable with Ar7, same geometry, and same flex pattern. But PC has better base and are costly.
 
Not gonna be your best skis outside the park. They're skinny and have no rocker. If you wanted a park ski from armada that could handle all mtn, maybe take a look at alpha x. You could also look at bdog or al dentes but since you chose pipe cleaners I'm assuming you like stiffer skis.
 
13103267:.Lincoln said:
Not gonna be your best skis outside the park. They're skinny and have no rocker. If you wanted a park ski from armada that could handle all mtn, maybe take a look at alpha x. You could also look at bdog or al dentes but since you chose pipe cleaners I'm assuming you like stiffer skis.
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Ok thanks but looking at the b dogs and wondering are they too soft for larger jumps or should I go for the al dentes. I'm used to a stiffer ski but just wondering how the b dog will do on that. When I'm in the park I'm usually doing about 65% jumps and 35% rails so knowing that is important to me.
 
13103405:Dropbombs8 said:
Ok thanks but looking at the b dogs and wondering are they too soft for larger jumps or should I go for the al dentes. I'm used to a stiffer ski but just wondering how the b dog will do on that. When I'm in the park I'm usually doing about 65% jumps and 35% rails so knowing that is important to me.
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If you like the specs of the bdog maybe go alpha x. Bdog could handle big jumps but it's not gonna be as forgiving as the alpha x. Alpha x is the same deminsions as bdog just stiffer.

As for al dente. I can't give you too much help. I've heard so many things about them I couldn't tell you how'd they do.

Also how big are your jumps you hit? Because the bdog might be able to handle them well if they aren't tooo big.
 
13103437:.Lincoln said:
If you like the specs of the bdog maybe go alpha x. Bdog could handle big jumps but it's not gonna be as forgiving as the alpha x. Alpha x is the same deminsions as bdog just stiffer.

As for al dente. I can't give you too much help. I've heard so many things about them I couldn't tell you how'd they do.

Also how big are your jumps you hit? Because the bdog might be able to handle them well if they aren't tooo big.
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Well right now the largest I've hit we're at loon probably like 40 feet but now like average at 20 to 30 ish. I'm looking into a softer ski such as the b dog but I've never ridden a soft ski before. Butters/presses are fresh so I want to do those and want to still ride the rest of the mountain. As you have I've also heard lots about the al dente but it varies. So are the alpha x a good choice even though their stiffer?
 
13104091:NikOtiN said:
If the difference in weight significantly, the heavier skis will always have a heavier swing weight.
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Yes that can be true but with a park ski with carp construction you'll find the swing weight will be very low. And alpha x aren't too much heavier than pcs
 
13104091:NikOtiN said:
If the difference in weight significantly, the heavier skis will always have a heavier swing weight.
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13104093:.Lincoln said:
Yes that can be true but with a park ski with carp construction you'll find the swing weight will be very low. And alpha x aren't too much heavier than pcs
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Thanks for all the help
 
And also I forgot to tell you that the bdog will hand 20-30 ft with ease. You'll notice a difference in stiffness on the alpha x on the bigger jumps like 30+ feet. Either would be a great option.
 
13104493:.Lincoln said:
And also I forgot to tell you that the bdog will hand 20-30 ft with ease. You'll notice a difference in stiffness on the alpha x on the bigger jumps like 30+ feet. Either would be a great option.
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THanks alot +k
 
Pipe Cleaner is an awesome ski, skied it next to al dente. But it's really small and stiff, and the al dente is very wide and soft.. i summer skied b-dog for 2 weeks and personally i thought it was better for big jumps then al dente, but like you guys talked about it seems like alpha x is an even better alternative for you. Personally i like rails better then jumps so b-dog is perfect. But if it's the PC you're looking for, it's absolutely a ski that can handle big jumps
 
13107368:ShaolinTang said:
Pipe Cleaner is an awesome ski, skied it next to al dente. But it's really small and stiff, and the al dente is very wide and soft.. i summer skied b-dog for 2 weeks and personally i thought it was better for big jumps then al dente, but like you guys talked about it seems like alpha x is an even better alternative for you. Personally i like rails better then jumps so b-dog is perfect. But if it's the PC you're looking for, it's absolutely a ski that can handle big jumps
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Sweet man, thanks!!!
 
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