Help this guy find some skis

[rtl32]

Ayy NS so originally from Jersey but will be skiing in New Hampshire this year, every day all winter!

So

I am looking for a powish/all mountain ski that I can maybe hit some park stuff with but mostly trees and pow and basically jump off of anything and everything. Something I can go fast on and not have flop around but still be really playful and hold a reasonable edge and be able to spin and land switch on (so no metal, nothing too surfy, and twin). I have race skis so if I want to charge groomers I'll be on those, so I'd be willing to sacrifice some carving ability.

I weigh 190, ski very aggressively (used to race, plus New Jersey "snow" really teaches you to use your edges), and would like to mount Look Pivot 14's on them with the 115mm brake, so just below that would be the widest I could go.

Looking to spend 300~ on it. I'm really good at finding things cheap online so disregard the price when giving me options. If I have options I'm sure I could find something, I just don't know where to start..

While I'm at it, do I even need a pow ski for up here? From jersey an 85mm waist center mounted twin could handle the occasional inch of crusty pow but I imagine it's a whole new world up here. How deep does a pow day get and are rockered skis actually useful here? (East coasters please answer this I don't want any biased westerners saying east coast is all ice so no).

Thanks guys! K+ promised to all those who are productive

 

[Swandog7]

Shreditor 102 is playful and a little floppy at high speeds but can still hold, and if your a good skier you should be able to handle it. Kartel 106 is a super sick durable ski but will most likely be outta your price range. Id also recommend Icelandic Nomad at 105 underfoot which would be a little stiffer than shreditors and close to Kartels but again may exceed your budget. A ski within in your budget might be the moment pb&j. Its just at 101 underfoot and can rip everywhere you take it. Defiantly a more all mountain park capable ski, but can ride through occasional pow. I believe you can find it for like $412?

 

[Zypher]

Shreditor 102 is playful and a little floppy at high speeds but can still hold, and if your a good skier you should be able to handle it. Kartel 106 is a super sick durable ski but will most likely be outta your price range. Id also recommend Icelandic Nomad at 105 underfoot which would be a little stiffer than shreditors and close to Kartels but again may exceed your budget. A ski within in your budget might be the moment pb&j. Its just at 101 underfoot and can rip everywhere you take it. Defiantly a more all mountain park capable ski, but can ride through occasional pow. I believe you can find it for like $412?

On top of these skis which are all awesome there are always the Line SFBs and Fatypus L-Toro. I just got a brand new pair of 2015 SFBs for $380 in the 172 cm version and I can't wait to shred with them this year in the North West. Like you though, I grew up in NJ but often skied at Whiteface Mt in New York and the Armada Ar7s never let me down, even though they only had an 83mm waist. I would definitely consider the Line SFBs (108mm waist) and the ON3P Kartel 106 or 98 (Your preference) if you wanted a wider ski.

 

[Swandog7]

On top of these skis which are all awesome there are always the Line SFBs and Fatypus L-Toro. I just got a brand new pair of 2015 SFBs for $380 in the 172 cm version and I can't wait to shred with them this year in the North West. Like you though, I grew up in NJ but often skied at Whiteface Mt in New York and the Armada Ar7s never let me down, even though they only had an 83mm waist. I would definitely consider the Line SFBs (108mm waist) and the ON3P Kartel 106 or 98 (Your preference) if you wanted a wider ski.

Only problem about some choices are they are out of his price rsnge. Pow/wide all mountain skis tend to be more expensive than park skis

 

[Zypher]

Only problem about some choices are they are out of his price rsnge. Pow/wide all mountain skis tend to be more expensive than park skis

Why can't companies just sell their skis for like 10 bucks, that'll make everybody happy...

In seriousness though, you can find some older models of good skis for alot cheaper even when the only thing changed is the design on it. I have seen brand new L-Toros going for under 300 and a bunch of other good skis for around that range because they were models from previous years.

 

[MartianMan]

Where are you skiing in NH? I ski up there all the time, and you are likely overrating the snowfall levels. I would highly recommend staying away from 115mm skis, because 99.62% of the tim they will be overkill. 98-108 range is going to wide enough to handle pretty much anything NH can throw at you, while still being able to carve on icy hardpack.

ON3P Kartel 98 and 106 (good luck finding cheap)

Liberty Helix

KF All Mountain (same problem as ON3P)

Blizzard Peacemaker

Salomon Rocker2 100 (probably your best best to find cheap)

Armada ARVti

My best suggestion for you: Moment PB&J. Stable as fuck, yet playful and twinned. 102 waist, and it comes in a 188 for you. Problem is getting a deal...

 

[Swandog7]

Where are you skiing in NH? I ski up there all the time, and you are likely overrating the snowfall levels. I would highly recommend staying away from 115mm skis, because 99.62% of the tim they will be overkill. 98-108 range is going to wide enough to handle pretty much anything NH can throw at you, while still being able to carve on icy hardpack.

ON3P Kartel 98 and 106 (good luck finding cheap)

Liberty Helix

KF All Mountain (same problem as ON3P)

Blizzard Peacemaker

Salomon Rocker2 100 (probably your best best to find cheap)

Armada ARVti

My best suggestion for you: Moment PB&J. Stable as fuck, yet playful and twinned. 102 waist, and it comes in a 188 for you. Problem is getting a deal...

Only problem about PB&J is pricing. I would have recommended rocker 2 108 but wasn't sure if there are cheap ones out there

 

[butternotbatter]

I would go either the Candide 2.0's, ON3P Kartel 98, Revision Talisman or K2 Shreditor 102.

 

[jackdonovan]

I would go either the Candide 2.0's, ON3P Kartel 98, Revision Talisman or K2 Shreditor 102.

ive heard only good things about the talisman and it has the edge damage warranty, but the sale ended and are now at $500

 

[FastSpeed]

Dps Spoons are the ski for you, I can guarantee it

 

[rtl32]

Shreditor 102 is playful and a little floppy at high speeds but can still hold, and if your a good skier you should be able to handle it. Kartel 106 is a super sick durable ski but will most likely be outta your price range. Id also recommend Icelandic Nomad at 105 underfoot which would be a little stiffer than shreditors and close to Kartels but again may exceed your budget. A ski within in your budget might be the moment pb&j. Its just at 101 underfoot and can rip everywhere you take it. Defiantly a more all mountain park capable ski, but can ride through occasional pow. I believe you can find it for like $412?

Did quite a bit of research and the shreditor looks way too flexy for me.

Let me revise what I wrote originally regarding flex and characteristics, something playful in tip and tail but stable and stiff underfoot, like volkl steps.

SFBs and Moment PB&Js look sick, I'll keep looking for them in cheaper prices. Kartels have a less progressive flex right? Combined with the price that doesn't seem like a feasible option. I don't like the rest of the specs of the nomad (construction and price). Honestly, I love the shape of the shreditors and if they were stiffer I would get them.

Where are you skiing in NH? I ski up there all the time, and you are likely overrating the snowfall levels. I would highly recommend staying away from 115mm skis, because 99.62% of the tim they will be overkill. 98-108 range is going to wide enough to handle pretty much anything NH can throw at you, while still being able to carve on icy hardpack.

ON3P Kartel 98 and 106 (good luck finding cheap)

Liberty Helix

KF All Mountain (same problem as ON3P)

Blizzard Peacemaker

Salomon Rocker2 100 (probably your best best to find cheap)

Armada ARVti

My best suggestion for you: Moment PB&J. Stable as fuck, yet playful and twinned. 102 waist, and it comes in a 188 for you. Problem is getting a deal...

Okemo/Sunapee on the daily. Located south of Dartmouth but very occasional trips elsewhere

I'll trust you on the snowfall thing. I skiied killington with some people a year or two ago who were regulars, and what they said was shitty conditions for them was better than anything I'd ever experienced in Jersey, so I probably am glorifying it too much up here. We will see though

Only problem about PB&J is pricing. I would have recommended rocker 2 108 but wasn't sure if there are cheap ones out there

Salomon rocker2 100 sounds good but it seems like one of the s line skis like it would be overun soon by touristy demos and what not. They are kinda cheap as well, would they be a good option for anything park or going switch and hitting cliffs and stuff?

Dps Spoons are the ski for you, I can guarantee it

I said 300 not 1300 jesus

right now what I'm favoring (in this order) are:

Line SFB

Moment PB and J (I want to know more about the flex pattern with them though)

and then Saloman rocker2 100

Any other suggestions? Disregard price as I said before these are literally all too much but I will figure something out. Just nothing of the dps spoons caliber...

 

[Swandog7]

Did quite a bit of research and the shreditor looks way too flexy for me.

Salomon rocker2 100 sounds good but it seems like one of the s line skis like it would be overun soon by touristy demos and what not. They are kinda cheap as well, would they be a good option for anything park or going switch and hitting cliffs and stuff?

right now what I'm favoring (in this order) are:

Line SFB

Moment PB and J (I want to know more about the flex pattern with them though)

and then Saloman rocker2 100

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Salomon 100 are actually used by pro riders as much as the NFX. Its like the Line Blend to Will Wesson and Sami O. It should be a great jibby all mountain ski. As for the PB&J, they are stiff and more rockered, and stiffer than the Salomons. These are just as park capable as the Salomons, and I know people with both who do 90% park and 10% all mountain. These are some great choices. The SFBs I don't know enough about, but I believe these can slash pow and crud really well, and are probably not as park oriented from what I know (someone else please help me out on these)

 

[MartianMan]

I skiied killington with some people a year or two ago who were regulars, and what they said was shitty conditions for them was better than anything I'd ever experienced in Jersey, so I probably am glorifying it too much up here. We will see though

Salomon rocker2 100 sounds good but it seems like one of the s line skis like it would be overun soon by touristy demos and what not. They are kinda cheap as well, would they be a good option for anything park or going switch and hitting cliffs and stuff?

right now what I'm favoring (in this order) are:

Line SFB

Moment PB and J (I want to know more about the flex pattern with them though)

and then Saloman rocker2 100.

If you ski "very aggressively," like you said in the description, the Moment PB&J is a MUCH better choice for you than the other two. The SFB and Rocker2 both are fun and playful skis, and will do the job of park and all-mtn skiing, but when it comes to charging and holding a good edge on longer turns, the PB&J would put them to shame. The Moments are stiffer and have a much longer turning radius compared to the other two, meaning higher stability at high speeds.