I ski on them and they make me smile. In powder, rocker is simply amazing, once you get it, you will never ever want a cambered ski again in soft, variable or crusty snow, it really is that much more fun. As for groomers, yes you can actually carve the ski, you almost ski them with both legs as opposed to really pressuring and outside ski if that makes sense. If somebody says they don't work on hardpack, they don't know how to ski in the first place. The HellBent is not a park ski, granted some people use it for park and do just fine, i.e. Andy Mahre, but it really excels in other conditions. If you get a chance to ski them, you are stoked, we sold out the first week of September.