I'm still confused on the difference between britneys and kfeds etc. A picture diagram would be great. (If there's already a thread on this Mods please delete.)
I often refer to this, just because he does them perfectly (see the 3rd comment for clarifications):
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Also, this:https://www.newschoolers.com/ns/cult/home/id/1690/t/Trick+Tip+Forum/
(hopefully that link works for you).
kbye.