Growing population in colorado

[profa_212]

Uh, yes... I mean what is so hard to figure out? Even if they bring their own food locals are at least contributing to the town in terms of property taxes and labor.

Your comment about spending your savings earned in a city on a burger is kind of funny too, median income in Denver is nearly twice what it is in Summit County, and for the most part "locals discounts" are pretty much nonexistent.

Are you really not getting it, or is it just admitting the reality of it that's hard?

You're such a hypocrite man, acting like I'm putting words in your mouth. I never said shit about who should be allowed to ski or not.

The county pays for the maintenance of county roads, with sales tax and property tax. You skip lunch, no sales tax, gotta increase property tax, gotta increase rent, burgers have to cost more, then you turn around and bitch about the price of lunch? Get over it. And fuck, if were talking about a resort how far do you think your $600 pass got them? Yea it ENTITLES you to ski any day you want, but the services you're receiving probably cost a hell of a lot more than $600.

Good call on the student stuff though, very intuitive.

You might be winning for stupidest member on NS...congrats

Fucking leave if you hate it so much dumbass. Or you can stay and continue to be the whiney douche in the lodge everybody hates

 

[Breaking_Rad]

Two points.

1) If you don't love the Colorado "scene" - meaning Summit County and the crowds - there are PLENTY of ski areas that have none of that. Go to Bogus Basin or live near Mt. Bachelor and you don't have to deal with any of that.

2) Look at the A-Basin webcam at this moment. A Wednesday at 10am. There are like 15 people in line. On Saturday that will be different, but if you can find some Denver job-flexibility that is typically the case not just at the Basin, but pretty much that's the case at ever Summit, Grand or Eagle County resort on weekday that hasn't been powder-hyped.

If you follow the herd you pretty much get what the herd gives you.

Also, hit Area 51 on Sundays early a.m. Nobody is there. I guess everybody is in church till 10:30am, right? Read: hungover.

 

[Bassin]

Fuck everyone moving to Colorado. Used to be such a better place 15 years ago. The beauty and awesomeness that made Colorado special has been lost. Now where jsut a front range version of chicago

Alright gramps...

 

[TheDoughAbides]

I never said shit about who should be allowed to ski or not.

You're right. All you've said is that people who aren't rich enough to own property in summit county or afford summit county vacation rental prices and single day lift tickets aren't as entitled to enjoying ski resorts as wealthier people. You'll tolerate poor people visiting Summit County, but you sure as hell won't welcome them like you welcome rich Texans who can buy $20 burgers everyday and have a second homes next to keystone, or whatever.

But please, proceed to bitch about the privilege of being able to make a living in Summit County with time left over to enjoy skiing, it must be soo shitty. It must really suck having to share all those mountain ranges that rose up for you and other property owners with the less fortunate. FUUUUUCK YOU

 

[Static]

You're right. All you've said is that people who aren't rich enough to own property in summit county or afford summit county vacation rental prices and single day lift tickets aren't as entitled to enjoying ski resorts as wealthier people. You'll tolerate poor people visiting Summit County, but you sure as hell won't welcome them like you welcome rich Texans who can buy $20 burgers everyday and have a second homes next to keystone, or whatever.

But please, proceed to bitch about the privilege of being able to make a living in Summit County with time left over to enjoy skiing, it must be soo shitty. It must really suck having to share all those mountain ranges that rose up for you and other property owners with the less fortunate. FUUUUUCK YOU

2nd home owners fuck shit up too especially in regards to home prices and housing availability, however keeping their investment alive does contribute to turning the cogs in town. Real estate agents getting paid, builders getting paid, housekeepers, property management companies, etc. Who the fuck did you throw a bone to?

And please proceed to bitch and cry poor mouth about the privilege of having a ski pass while you're so fuckin' impoverished, living in a city with a higher median income and a lower cost of living then the towns you clog up. And you mention the ability to make a living, it's a lot harder than it used to be. Ski time is down, work time is up. Cost of living is at an all time high because of the influx of people. What's the biggest issue in Summit County right now? Affordable housing.

Try not to blow a gasket, no one's going to stop you from skiing. except maybe CDOT on a pow day, or Vail corp. if you get on the naughty list

 

[HuckNorris44]

Made this and threw it on the back of my car.

 

[nellyyy]

As someone who has lived on both sides of the Summit housing crisis/debate/"should I or shouldn't I go fuck myself" discussion (literally in the past year), I guess I'll go fuck myself down here in Denver. Sorry for ruining Summit, guys.

 

[waxman]

nobody feels like they should pay for a full price ticket:

'im a local'

'ive had a season pass for 10 years'

'i bought my whole family passes'

'i only ski park'

people have no problem paying their gas bill, cell bill, and mortgage in full. but when it comes to lift tickets, hell no, wheres my discount?

This times a thousand.

 

[TrickyDick470]

As someone who has lived on both sides of the Summit housing crisis/debate/"should I or shouldn't I go fuck myself" discussion (literally in the past year), I guess I'll go fuck myself down here in Denver. Sorry for ruining Summit, guys.

Oh man, you're the root of the problem. I love the Texans and other Jerrys snaking me on the slopes, fuck you for having a passion for skiing. You are the problem with Summit County, not the out-of-staters.

 

[PeppermillReno]

Summitt CO is the custiest place in the world what do you idiots expect? Go to Aspen or the San Juans for real skiing or simply embrace the fact that its busy and there are a shitload of girls everywhere. Vail is the easiest place in the world to get laid you just can't make fun of it too much and tell every local they are king gaper enjoying the worlds biggest blue run or people won't really like you.

If you were a real skiier you would be living somewhere else end of story.

 

[Balzberg]

The weekend warrior supports the die hard, its how it works man. Instead of being pissed off about it, educate people on our sport. The more people who ski in the world the better

He gets it! As someone who makes it from the Denver area to the mountains every weekend possible, and often weekdays I obviously would rather live in a ski town and ski in the week and not be part of a huge weekend crowd. However I'll take that over not going skiing any day of the week.

Fun meeting you and saying hello at A Basin opening weekend Lupe! BUFU was legit!

 

[dan4060]

So by your logic any "locals" who bring food/beer/supplies there to the mountains are okay but if your from out of state/front range and live in your van your dick cause your not spending your savings on a fucking $20 burger and $10 beer right?

Sounds like OP was trying to make a thread to rip on Weekend Warriors cause the I-70 resort corridor is always packed and it backfired.

Get over it. If you wanna ski somewhere without lines leave and go to the wilderness area and earn turns the hard way.

This.

Also, from what I understand, and lots of this comes from an article in Powder several years ago, the Summit/Vail resorts are really helped by the cheap passes that are sold. They sell tons of epic passes and if they did not have the weekend warriors buying them, they have to sell them in volume to make the profit margin acceptable, it might not be worth it. You have to sell lots of them to make it work it and the locals probably would not buy enough of them to incentivize the resorts to make that decision. You would probably be paying a lot more for your pass, or you would have to work for the resort which is not great unless you can do it part-time and work nights to make real money. Without the weekend warriors you probably would not get that pass. My guess is that big resorts without weekend warriors, places like Jackson and Sun Valley, have higher season passes than the Summit/Tahoe/Mammoth type places where there are regular weekend types. I don't know this for a fact and I'm not going to study it, but I would guess that is how things end up. Weekend warriors allow resorts to sell passes in bulk which makes it worth it to sell them for cheap.

If you can afford a higher pass price than I don't blame you as much for feeling this way. When I was a Squaw local the full season pass was 1200 if you bought it early and 1600 if you bought it later. Many Squaw locals who make good money (for a ski town) wish it would go back to that as that would decrease crowds.

Of course if you are a local wouldn't you rather avoid weekends anyway? I worked nights and instructed part-time, only the occasional weekend and holidays, and I did not worry too much if the weekends were crowded. If you live in Denver and ski weekends and are mad because the I70 commute sucks than you really are not any different than the other weekenders.

My second year as a Tahoe local I hated the tourists too. Then I grew up and realized that I probably would not have a job in a restaurant and a part-time instructing job which got me cheap gear and a pass without the tourists. Even the weekend warriors who come up a lot still patronize restaurants and they helped make sure that I had a job.

I occasionally get that vibe at Mammoth. I go up 2-3 weekends a month and sometimes I meet locals who don't like me. I was talking on a gondi ride once with a local. We were talking about our favorite lines and great Mammoth windbuff. It was a Friday so the mountain was not crowded. He asked me where I lived and I said socal. He did not say a word to me the rest of the ride and when we got off and then yelled "go back to LA" as he skated away. That night he ended up waiting on me at the restaurant I went to. I could have stiffed him on the tip but it was not worth it to be a dick. It was funny to be someone who helped subsidize his life yet someone he also despised so much.

There are places with less crowded mountains where the warriors won't be a big deal. You should look for one of those. I doubt Jackson has many weekend warriors but have fun with an insanely expensive pass and a ridiculous housing market there. If the weekend warrior types who come up 2-3 weekends a month bother you than Colorado might not be a good place for you to live.

 

[Hugh_Conway_jr]

The massive influx of people to Colorado in the last decade is a bigger deal for BC users than resort users.

Avy deaths have spiked in the state, because there are more muppets wandering arounding out there making horrible decisions.

... but sounds like the general consensus in this thread so far is, the more the merrier...and that's fine by me...its not my backyard.