totally, cypress blows, and Seymour is a mountain that can go to hell, sure they have a great park, but thats it. the rest of the mountain blows, sure the backcountry terrain is great, but I'm rating mountains on what they have inbounds to offer, and when it comes to an all around experience, Grouse is a much better mountain than Seymour. Resturant, Lifts, Rentals, Staff, all around atmosphere of not feeling like you are in some garbage dump. The Grouse park isn't all that bad; if you want a real park, go to Blackcomb and stop putting down Grouse.