Grouse has there Y2play pass today

Park is a fad that you have to do when you're young in order to fit in, feel cool, and prove yourself if you have talent. When you get older, you realize this, and you graduate from the park. You then take the next step and start searching for gnarly, and increasingly gnarlier lines within the resort-- or at least close to the lifts, whether that be in bounds or not. After you ski these lines a million times, you start pushing the boundaries until you get banned. You are then forced to buy your own snowmobile. By this point, you should either a) have a career that allows you to pay for, maintain and operate a snowmobile on weekends b) be a bum who lives in a leaky camper in day lot 4 and who puts all disposable income into his sled c) be paid by a major ski corporation to sled and film yourself hucking. Since I've satisfied the first three components of this formula (aged past park ratness; skied most inbounds lines a million times; banned), next year (I graduate from UBC this year) I will be taking part in (hopefully) option A, or (more hopefully) option B. There are clearly a few exceptions to this recipe, but I think for the most part, this is, more or less, the typical unfolding of life for most of us shredders. So, don't be ashamed about buying a Y2gay if your still that young(ish) park rat who may enjoy the rare pow lap on a named resort run, because Grouse is the mountain that might serve your needs best. But once you move onto the next few phases of life, if you don't realize that there are hundreds of other mountains (with natural terrain parks) surrounding Vancouver that you can explore on your own (without rules), if you truly shred, you'll be forced into riding them by default.

*disclaimer* Due to the atrocities Grouse enacted against me and my best friends, I still endorse Seymour and even (gasp) Cypress over Grouse. However, I don't judge anyone for riding at Grouse as I rode there for the better part of my life
 
oh, and I'm not hating on you park rats. I was one for a long time and I still love park. Just wait till you're 25 and 3 surgeries (all park inflicted) deep.
 
^ yo stfu I said start over. And some of us go up to grouse because it's easy to get to and we can go after school ect.
 
cool your jets big guy, thats graham haywood, you know, the guy that pretty much started this debate by going from grouse pro team to banned in 1 run.

he also acknowledged that grouse fulfills our needs right now so theres no reason to hate on grouse shredders.
 
Here are some other local options that will cost you about $350:

- Spring pass at Seymour ($99) plus early bird pass next fall ($270)

- 8-10 days at Mt Baker

- Spring pass at Cypress

- Student pass at Whistler/Blackcomb ($440)

- Student pass at Apex

- Seasons pass at Manning

- 10+ days at Hemlock

- Student pass at Mt Washington ($400)

Of course you could always save your money and take a trip to the interior the next time it sucks on the coast.. kindof like right now. UGGG
 
Skiing and african slavery are two entirely unrelated issues. Unfortunately, you missed the entire point.
The point is that the choices you make with how you expend your time and money have a material impact on how society is structured. Cash flow is raw representative democratic action. By purchasing a Grouse pass you are tacitly acknowledging that you support their decisions, or are at least comfortable enough with them to be bedfellows.
Coincidentally, I read an article on this vein today (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/africa/article5796426.ece)It deals with the potential purchase of gold from a person with known human rights abuses and who is a bedfellow of Robert Mugabe. Rather than purchase the gold below market prices, it was declared that:
“We have no interest in buying gold from people running a country where people are dying of cholera or from Congo, where the money from any deal would be used to buy arms to kill more people,” he said. “This is bloody gold. These people are criminals.”
The point is that to maintain a business relationship with an entity is to endorse the code of conduct that entity operates by. The situation is not nearly of the same gravity as the Grouse fiasco, but the moral is the same. By purchasing a Y2Play pass, you acknowledge that you are comfortable with how Grouse mountain runs their business and treats skiers on the mountain.

I challenge your supposition that the Grouse fiasco does not negatively contribute to the ski industry.
North Shore Rescue never charges for rescue. Never has, never will. Why? Because it will further endager lives. Those in need of rescue may not be able to afford it and may die rather than call for rescue. Those who don't need rescue may evade search efforts and waste resources and jeopardize the lives of would-be rescuers. Read it yourself:http://www.northshorerescue.com/chargingforrescues.htmlSo Grouse Mountain, by very publicly advocating the reform to a system of mandatory fines/charging for rescue is advocating a policy that the very organization which performs rescues believe is harmful and will endanger lives. THAT IS HARMING THE SKI INDUSTRY.
While you were sitting on the couch, apparently you missed the fact that the BC Solicitor General wants to institute a system of fines for skiers who go out of bounds.http://www2.canada.com/theprovince/news/story.html?id=d7dbf34c-9216-4198-9544-0e46ba19a109Going out of bounds is normal acceptable skier behaviour at moutains all across BC. It is the STANDARD that is accepted. Grouse has the ability to determine what is in bounds, out of bounds, and closed at their own resort. We went Out of Bounds, not into a closed area (it has never been suggested so), and as such we were acting within the reasonable standards of BC skiing. But Grouse's malicious persecution of us now threatens out of bounds access at ALL mountains in BC. THAT IS HARMING THE SKI INDUSTRY.

Now in light of this evidence, are these actions which you want to support? Is this a mountain you are happy to give money to? Is this mountain harming the ski industry? Is this negatively contributing to skiing in BC?

If you truly do not think that how you spend your money matters, then in my opinion, you are naive and ignorant. If you still want to buy a Grouse pass, that's ok, for some people it is the most convenient way for them to ski at this point, but recognize which policies and future standards you are implicity advocating and if that is really what you for the future of skiing in BC.
 
I totally agree with what your saying, but some people will take the easy way out and just buy a cheap pass that lets them ski. and for the people out there who only ski park and stay inbounds, grouse looks like a great mountain. Once again I agree that overall they are harming the industry with those 2 reasons you put out there, but for people who just wanna ski park and stay in bounds they are not harming "their" idea of the ski industry. thats why I am trying to provide a perspective from all sides and I think this discussion is good. bottem line: if grouse fucks up but i doesn't effect you, then people wont care and will still buy the pass
 
Grouse should have no right to say that you can't go out of bounds, Because when you think about it you leaving grouse mountain is going out of bounds. All going out of bounds is leaving there property to public property witch shouldn't be punished by charging a person a helicopter bill because THEY THINK you are getting lost and do not have the proper gear.
 
I don't think they own many of the hills around it because the bcmc trail isn't on there property and that's right beside the grouse grind so.
 
I have, but it's pointless because it's nearly impossible to get in there now, with that mountain and snow fence needing to be conquered before ski patrol or grouse employees spot you. I saw some tracks in there the other day and I smiled, but the conditions were half hazard and I didn't want to risk my neck going back there alone with marginal skiing conditions.
 
Pow day today. But it's probably really wet because last night you couldn't even get the speed to hit a rail because it was so wet. well I'm going up skiing out.
 
They went over quite well, thank you. However, I have my second calculus and chemistry midterms coming up in the next few weeks. I'm not out of the woods yet.
 
haha, this is so true.

I must be getting old.

James made some very good points there too. Think before you spend your money, no matter what you are buying.
 
Your so fucking dumb. maybe if you ever hear of a thing called wax! maybe get your univarsitry degree to teach you how to wax the shredplanky.
i'll ski poop. if i ever go up there. i dont give a shit about my pass at grouse. seymour is life
 
well i just spent the last two days at seymour and can say im moving back next year for sure. Pow days were sick, and if you werent getting the speed use WAX (but the snow was still a tad sticky).
 
Well let's see I must be dumb because I got them waxed before I went

up, even though when it's raining at the bottom of the lift and snowing

at the top you stick to it, and Seymour maby you should get a

UNIVERSITY degree on how to spell when there's a spell check. And maby

get one about not calling people dumb because you think you know every

thing about the situation.
 
Your new nickname is going to be Tool shed if you don't wise up.

Pete's just screwing around. And he does happen to know everything.
 
eppiicccc linnnneeee ive asked so many green pant kids if they are you, you must reveal yourself some day

and peter pretty much does know everything...

..jk hes a fag
 
pretty much we've asked every single green panted kid on the hill, so next time your at grouse hold a sign saying "epic line" ... are you asian?
 
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