Greater Equality: How Equality Effectively Determines a Nation's Social Aspects

now i'm confused. you say you don't think that 80% of people in america are just lazy but then say that most of the time people are poor because they are lazy...which is it?
 
while i'm not saying that everyone's lazy, this generation is not even close to as productive or have anything near the work ethic previous generations had. we bitch and moan more than we do anything to change what we're bitching and moaning about.

and i was pointing out that you immediately put me into the group of people who think everyone just sits on their ass from one post which made it seem like you aren't really one to go throwing around statistical analyses.
 
Your father being from a small rural town is a completely different situation then someone who has grown up around un educated people in a high population density area i.e a ghetto.

Were your grandparents educated? Or did they support education?
 
i have no idea which generation you are referring to when you say "this generation" or how you have come to that conclusion, but okay.

...wut? not sure what you mean by "you aren't really one to go throwing around statistical analyses." i pointed out that social mobility is now harder in america than europe. you then said that that was a weak excuse and cited your dad working hard as a seemingly definitive example to prove you were correct. what other conclusion was i supposed to draw?
 
i honestly have no idea. i think my grandma assembles electronics or something.

to watts, you generalized me by one post which is a bad way to view anything as you pointed out by talking about how a sample size of one is pretty weak then turning around and doing the exact same thing by generalizing me (a sample size of one) into a larger population. that was just trolling really.

and by this generation i mean the generation that has facebook, twitter, tumblr, an iphone, and spends more time talking to people through a computer than in person, expects to get over a 4.0 in highschool then have a 4.0 in college and walk out a millionaire.

and i'm not just trying to flame, i'm a little shit myself and i'm guilty of everything i posted about, i'm just aware of it and hate myself for it
 
that's...not the same at all. you used one example of your dad working hard to disprove what i said about social mobility being harder in america than in europe. me drawing a conclusion about you from that post is nowhere close to what you did. glad to hear you don't really believe it, though.

so by this generation you mean people who haven't really lived long enough to tell if they have moved up or down on the social scale or not? surely this generation which is only just entering the work force is a bad example to use to prove that we don't have social mobility because we are more concerned with the kardashians than our jobs?
 
Everybody who complains, maybe we should move all the black people back to Africa. And everybody else complaining about America can move to Greece. America is really ducking easy to make it in if you aren't both retarded and lazy at the same time
 
Things to keep in mind:

The poverty level for a family of 4 is about 8k short of the amount needed to properly survive as a family, and two parents making minimum wage can't make enough money to hit that # either. How does one bust out of poverty when they even have a job but are still stuck?

Fed Poverty level for family of 4: ~22K

Amount needed to barely scrape by with all needs and minimal wants: ~30K

Amount two people can bring in on minimum wage: ~29K

Think about it.
 
Can't afford kids? DON'T FUCKING HAVE THEM.

22,000.00 dollars isn't enough? MOVE TO BANGLADESH AND MAKE 220 BUCKS A YEAR!

Can't stand fucking tools complaining about American poverty. American poverty is royalty to 75 percent of the worlds population. Tell the man in India hunting rats to eat that the poor American in poverty can't afford a third television haha. Zimmerman if you don't like your job go back to school and get a new one. Nobody is gonna pay you 20 bucks an hour to serve French fries. Fucking loser
 
I think you're kind of retarded. My friend's Mom makes 23,000 dollars a year working for Blue Cross Blue Shield. She supports him, his brother, and his brothers girlfriend and daughter. Quite comfortably. It's about not living beyond your means. Poor people are poor for a reason, they generally don't know how to spend.
 
If only it were that simple... Fuck you're retarded.

And to the other guy: I did a quick study, went through all needs for a family of 4 for a year and we could not come up with a number under 30K.
 
I hate to use anecdotal evidence...but when it's right there, I kinda feel like I have to. Whatever works though man. To each their own.
 
not nearly as much as the millions a year that top earning americans make. which is what the thread is about; inequality of wealth distribution in america. can we stay on topic, please?
 
Oh the truth comes out. How cute. Ever have the mindset that its ok not to be rich as long as you are doing ok? The rich in America are what bring the floor up for the poor. If your just gonna throw shit because of jealousy. Do Darwin a favor and top yourself you fucking tool
 
i never said the poor were getting poorer and the rich getting richer, so i'm not sure why that video is relevant, but it was a good watch. and it did support my point at the beginning when he showed the data about the top 20% of earners in the u.s. having 50% of the countries wealth leaving the bottom 80% of earners with 50% of the countries wealth, which is what inequality of wealth distribution is, which is what i was talking about. so thanks for showing that.
 
If the poor are getting richer, and so are the richer. Why does it matter that the rich have more money? Why does income matter if overall quality of life is positively impacted across the board.
 
Lol, no we dont have slavery. Also, wouldnt comparing it to the republic make more sense since we have a republic
 
because it leads to massive inequality between the very rich and everybody else. and because there are still plenty of people in america living in poverty/on the streets when it's entirely unnecessary considering how much money the country has as a whole.
 
no one should need what? i don't want to sound like an ass but it really would be much easier to discuss with you guys if you would articulate full thoughts instead of just fragments. it's really hard to figure out what you mean/are trying to say when you refer to things using words like "that" without ever explaining what the "that" is.

and, yeah, i guess you're right. fascism does technically try to destroy class differences between individuals, but they also believe in destroying the so-called "inferior" members of society in order to be left with a nation full of only "superior" people.

of course, if you think wanting more equality between classes is moronic, that is your prerogative.
 
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The use of anecdotal evidence to prove or disprove the

effects of economic inequality and income mobility in the United States is

absurd. Of course, I am speaking more towards those who clearly see nothing

wrong with the current inequality in the US because their parents, and their

friends’ parents, were lucky enough to have the chance to better themselves through hard work and persistence.

Success stories such as these are fantastic, however they are by no means the

norm. To get a sense of the bigger picture, we need to look at statistics,

particularly the gini coefficient and its economic and political implications.

In reality, despite what the video a few posts above me

might lead you to believe, income inequality is a serious issue for everyone,

rich and poor. Regardless of the reasons that lead to inequality, as we can

debate those ad infinitum, the fact remains that it is hindering the growth of

this nation and sending us down a lose-lose road of class warfare. Income

inequality threatens the political stability of our nation, impedes advances in

health and education, and negates policies aimed at improving overall quality

of life.

First, greater income inequality polarizes the classes,

creating a political climate that is extremely volatile. It doesn’t take much

to realize that this is already happening, i.e. the fiscal “cliff,” cuts to

social programs, increased regulation of the financial sector. Heck, look at NS

recently, the political climate is more heated than ever. The US gini

coefficient is 40.8 according to the World Bank. Go look at a list of countries

ranked by gini coefficient and try to find a developed nation with a larger

one. The countries that do have

larger figures are countries like South Africa and Brazil, countries that are

currently facing impossible political environments because their populations

are so divided. It is a disgrace that the US is anywhere near these countries

in terms of inequality when we have such great wealth as a nation.

Secondly, income inequality leads to inequality in schools

and access to good healthcare. Schools in poor and disadvantaged areas simply

do not receive the funding necessary to prepare their students for leading

healthy, contributory lives. Consequently, and undeniably, poor education leads

to higher crime rates across the board. Crime is a huge detractor from economic

growth, in addition to being an awful setback in overall quality of life for

all. Access to good healthcare goes without saying. A healthy nation is a

productive nation, so leaving a good percentage of our population out to dry in

terms of healthcare negatively affects us all.

Lastly, income inequality makes it nearly impossible to

promote good quality-of-life policies. For example, it would be extremely

advantageous for this country to switch to renewable energy. But even the

slightest increase in prices in order to promote the switch from

traditionally-sourced energy would severely disadvantage the poor, who pay a

much larger percentage of their income for basic necessities. The same can be

said for higher quality, environmentally-friendly food and so on.

Are the poor richer in absolute terms than they were 50

years ago? Yes. But does that mean we don’t have a serious inequality issue?

Absolutely not. Is complete socialism, with a gini coefficient
 
You do realize class warfare exists not because of the wage gap, but because nations , from an evolutionary standpoint are counter productive and subconsciously we realize this. One individuals in group cannot include a country.
 
like i said, you're entitled to that opinion. personally i'd prefer the very rich not to hoard the money they don't know what to do with in swimming pools or use it to wipe their asses while hundreds of thousands of people sleep under a box every night, but to each his own.
 
by the way, not implying that all rich people are bad people at all, it's just that a lot of them really do have way more money than they'll ever need, but never give any away to charity and complain about taxes, and it's just something i don't understand.
 
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